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Julia Gillard Why?

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It is my intention if we get the thread,to ask that question Why Gillard.
Yes it will bring the usual verbal tennis, some balls hit in to the wrong court, but may be worth while.
I ask those who do not vote conservative, to forget their views about Abbott.
Let us talk about Labors problems, yes Abbott, by his climb in the polls is one.
But with polling this bad? why Gillard?
Are Labor wounds self inflicted.
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 2 October 2011 12:02:11 PM
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Yes.....
Posted by Poirot, Sunday, 2 October 2011 2:29:40 PM
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Dear Belly,

Julia Gillard, Why?
And, are Labor's wounds self-inflicted?

Firstly, there are quite a few things
regarding, Julia Gillard, Why?

1) The nature of her ascension.
2) Her non-victory in the last election.
3) Her subsequent minority government.
4) Many voters have never regarded her as a legitimate PM.
5) Hostile media.
6) Lack of communication strategies.

Throw in some unpopular policies (like the carbon tax)
and it's no surprise that both the PM and the government
are struggling.

Add to that the fact that the Opposition has focused its
sights on destroying the government and what you get is
the current mess.
In the minds of many ordinary voters it appears that they're
beginning to think that Labor can't win the next election.

However, alternatively - there's - few people who
want Tony Abbott as the next Prime Minister.

Labor is aiding its problems by its lack of communication
strategies.

They should focus more on their positive
achievements. Pointing out things like the fact that
Julia Gillard's government has passed 185 pieces of
legislation (including 22 just recently). They should
call Abbott into account for every negative comment he
makes. And as Rob Oakeshott keeps telling the media -
"The government is governing well. Things are getting done."

However voters aren't told about the achievements -
all they hear is the focused negativity that is supplied
by the Opposition.

That has to change.
Posted by Lexi, Sunday, 2 October 2011 3:16:44 PM
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Poirot I agree, but know your Greens inflict much more.
My posts after 2007, maybe before did not praise Gillard.
Many greats came from Labors left, Gillard is not, never was, and never will be one of them.
I got it very wrong, as wrong as it gets, I truly never thought my party would elect her leader.
Once they did? I warned she would fall just as Rudd did, she will.
But again I got it wrong, very wrong, I said she could not be trusted, still true.
But that she would govern well, that was very wrong.
Why did she take the leadership.
Why does she still have it.
And will she be removed before an election?
Subjects I want to talk about.
And more.
She once had it over Abbott in debate, not after she got Rudd's job, any skill she had there is gone,forever.
Our first woman Prime Minister but how long before we get another?
If Kevin Rudd took over this day Labor would lead in the polls.
Yet she survives? I want to explore why and put a thought here in time lets see what others think.
Poirot, I should not do this, but in time you will understand, My party is in bad shape.
Its worst ever, BUT Friend know as hard as it is more dislike yours than even mine, it will always be true.
Glass houses and thrown stones, heard that before, constructive criticism is well come.
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 2 October 2011 3:29:01 PM
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Lexi I agree! with every point.
But much can be laid at Julia's door, the hung election would have made Abbott suffer too if he had formed government.
First, I think, true, Gillard or some one, Wilkie? says if she goes the government does.
Many will trash me, but the policy's are ok, Labor wants to and MUST see Carbon tax, and NBN, mining tax, installed.
Even future conservative governments will not remove them.
Gillards history, not the news paper versions, is of interest, BUT once they thought well of her.
She was a Latham supporter I a rooster still hold that against her.
She supported Simon Crean ditto.
Fitzgibbon, remember him, China bribe/travel links?
As charming and bright as Pyne! her welded on supporter! another mark against him, his IQ is questionable.
If his dog leaves home the average IQ will drop ten points in his home.
Gillard at question time, Abbott will say Malaysian solution failed, she intent on who knows what will not even remind him and those watching it never got a start.
Rudd went because of the polling yet Gillard is TOXIC!
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 2 October 2011 4:15:32 PM
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Dear Belly,

You know more about the ins and outs then I do.
I only know what I read, and what I hear, and what's
presented in the media. I have to read between
the lines and try to get to as many sources as
possible before I make up my mind about things.

I still feel that Rob Oakeshott's right. We need to
wait to see the positive outcomes and then decide
prior to the election. We need to look at the policies,
check what's on offer, and then judge.

I'm so sick and tired of people talking about the so
called "budget surplus," that Costello left. No one
mentions the gaping big hole of the infra-structures that
were ruined as a result of all the cuts that were made
to achieve that surplus. The big hole in our
and the mess that had to be fixed as a result of
all the cuts. It's all very well to accuse someone of
spending, however - no one bothers to explain why the
spending was necessary, and how it came about that it
had to be done.
Posted by Lexi, Sunday, 2 October 2011 8:11:14 PM
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