Lexi said:
Remember what Tony Abbott did to Malcolm Turnbull?

Well then what do you think of this ?
Remember what Julia Gillard did to PM Kevin Rudd ?

Amazing Lexi, many of your arguments I had thought were, while biased,
not totally unreasonable.
However from now on it will be necessary to look at your offerings in
a totally different light.
Are you in fact coming from the ALP office ?
I will have to consider that possibility in future.

Face it, both parties acted poorly as a knee-jerk reaction to polls. Labor's behaviour clearly the uglier of the two.

Both parties made a mistake in changing leader. There is no doubt that had either kept their original leader (Turnbull or Rudd), they would have been much more successful at the last election.

We would also be getting an ETS regardless. Now, should we go to an early election, we'll be deciding between a interim carbon tax or the more expensive and less effective direct action policies of Abbott.

Actually, with Labor's poor PR vs the Liberal/National/Murdoch coalition's negativity campaign. Quality of Policy or KPI's won't come into it.

'Both parties made a mistake in changing leader'

Really Trashcanman

Few graphs would be able to measure how popular the Liberal party has risen since Abbott took over from Turnbull. I know it irks you to know end but face the facts. You really do fool yourself. People know that Abbott believes man made gw is c-ap. You and those in love with leftist ideology just don't get it just like the Labour party in NSW and Queensland and Victoria just don't get it.

Dear Bazz,

You can think what you like about me.
I can do the same about you. As for my
coming from the ALP office? No. I
come from a very conservative family of
Liberal supporters. And some of my family
members to this day think differently to
the way that I do. As I've written in the
past - I'm not into Party politics. I tend
to look at policies and what each side has
to offer before making up my mind which way
to vote. And as I've also stated - the pickings
at present are rather slim. I'm not sure how
I will vote at the next election. I don't like
Mr Abbott for all the reasons I've already
stated many times on this forum.

However, if Malcolm Turnbull became leader of
the Opposition - it may be a different story.
It all depends on policies.

Really runner,

Are you sure Abbott thinks AGW theory is crap? You're probably right.

His policy therefore is to tackle something that he believes doesn't exist?

Wow... It says so much about him. No surprises though.

BTW, climate change theory isn't ideology, whereas denialism is.

Trashcan, I think when it comes to the election the liberals will
change their policy on AGW. I suspect they may be waiting to see what
happens at the Durban conference.
I wouldn't mind betting that the majority of the coalition would vote
to abandon their AGW policy.
With all the uncertainty around the whole subject it would probably be
prudent to put it on hold.

In any case before they get anything substantially off the ground they
will be struggling with either a zero growth or contracting economy
and won't have the money anyway.