OUG I am unsure about some of those figures.
Could throw true information about Blue collar workers [working long hours as Polly's do] earning near $200.000
Done those hours 17 a day, then after sleeping on roadside started again.
We work to live.
To earn a wages , have a life.
Rewards [wages]bring extra effort and extra pay.
How many of us would take on the job,long hours unfocused and unwarranted abuse, for what if not fair wages?
Do we then insult every high income earner,are Butchers efforts better than say Abbott or Swans?
Is his chain of shops paying him too much.

belly/quote..""OUG I am unsure about some of those figures.""

yep they are insane mate
heard it on abc news radio

thing is if your happy as a pig in muck
the less light shone on ya the happier they be

if the press even mentions the detail
then the poor mugs simply say..we dont set the rate mate
[its clever stuff all round,..to clever by half as those who set the rate must get an increase for service linked to any pay rate they set]

""Blue collar workers
[working long hours as Polly's do]""

mate long hours
you clearly havnt sat in the galleries in canberra
the only mugs in the parlement is usually the speaker and the one speaking..unless someother opposition spokesperson calls quorum..and they briefly march back in..[to wander out again later]

polies turn up at the kids fete
say a few word..take a picture for the press

and run off to the next meeting..do the same..
then run and hide..[to call it work takes a thick hide]..but then again ya got them shoval leaners..in local govt too

then there is that perk..going overseas..lol..to study how others do the big bludge[you hear of that lot often in question time...when the speaker says..we have in the gallery today..some mug..on his travels on public tic

on his/her way to his next fre lunch
or bribe offer..lol study

""earning near $200.000""

mate who knows
who cares..i wish i didnt hear the details either
all i know is the shovel leaners rate is pegged to his boss pay rate
thats linked into poly pay rates..[than links back into super/pension]

""How many of us would take on the job,""
mate we got fools willing to put up $1000 for it every election

unless your party pays it for you

""long hours
unfocused and unwarranted abuse""

mate half the bloggers here are public servants
why ya think saterday is so quite around here
[the other half call it sabbath]

just like your here for unions
we all got adgendas.,.or why bother

""are Butchers efforts better than say Abbott or Swans?"'
at least they feed us
all the other mugs do is take our cash
and think of nmew ways to get our money for nuthin

like that smokers tax..or that thin air tax..
or gst..or wage tax..or them other over 100 taxes..

each one of them them mugs thunk of
while working for their party machine men

bah

The latest proposed pay rise for Parliamentarians is about the sickest that has come out of late.
I would love to see the conservatives live up to their name on this one & reject the rise. Even more of a show of integrity would be if they could propose a Parliamentarians & Public Servants" pay freeze for the next five years. The money that these people cost the rest of us borders on the criminal.
Wayne Swan as best treasurer can flex his prowess & show how good a manager he is by knocking back this insane proposal. Same goes for Tony Abbott & Bob Brown & Bob Katter.

What we are seeing here is the standard approach of the monopolist.

Our politicians occupy a position for which there is no competition. I don't mean the parliamentary seat itself, of course, which is up for grabs every four years, but the job "member of parliament".

We can't put their services out to the market, and accept the lowest conforming bidder. We can't outsource them to an office in Bangalore, staffed 24/7. We have no option but to live with the fact that they can award themselves any amount of money, at any time, without requiring any form of approval from those who must stick their hands in their pockets to pay them.

Furthermore, we - their employers - have no means to exert any form of quality control over the candidates. We have to select from the slab of trough-swillers that we are presented with at the ballot box, while being patronized with the "you are fulfilling your community responsibilities" line, together with the "it is a privilege to be able to vote" cobblers. How can it be a "privilege" to choose from a bunch of candidates whose only ambition is to collect as much money as possible, for as long as possible, and forever after wallow in obscene pensions and golden airline tickets?

The biggest insult of all, though, is that we are unable to hold any single one of them accountable for the promises they make, prior to their acquiring all that feather-bedding. I personally would have no objection to lifting their pay, in exchange for one, simple agreement.

That they honour the contract that they enter into when they make commitments to us, in exchange for our vote.

Pericles, plus indemnity insurance so, if they stuff up, we are not the ones who loose out. After all, the majority of voters at any election don't usually vote for the sitting government, yet, we pay for their mistakes, point in case the past four years.

Doctors have it, lawyers and consultants as well, why not pollies.