The pay rise if any is managed by outside interests. So it is a bit off to blame politicians. The working poor ,if the far right get a go everybody will working poor.
Any one that works 38 hours is entitled to a livable wage. Only radical right supporters think not.

I will not respond to such remarks.
I will take to any one who has any opinion as long as it is one backed by understanding.
Truth, a host of things most have.
Pointless talking to closed minds uninformed ones and lost ones.
I remain convinced, the anti politician comments are basically from the uniformed.

I will not respond to such remarks.
Belly,
Is it because you can't answer my question?

Any one that works 38 hours is entitled to a livable wage.
579,
Yeah, anyone who works but what about the Bureaucrats ?

579, please:define liveable wage.

Belly, job losses tell the story, as we now have the highest basic wage and conditions going.

Of cause there is a trade of, it's called, outsoursing our labor.

Qantas staff are a classic example, most on more than the average wage of 60K per year, but still not happy.

You pushed for these conditions, now you have them, are you satisfied with your efforts?

The thread now has visitors who want only to insult politicians.
Thoughtful posters will be aware, every country has some dud politicians.
Australia, no more than any other.
And on every side of politics.
We,all of us, those capable of thinking, know in part we are to blame.
We put them there,often two three, or even more times.
In the back ground, hear it, claims only Labor has duds raises its head.
My idea is pay more get more.
Few of us have not bought the cheaper brand, on occasions, and wished we had not.
Now for some time, I have rolled a work place reform/IR/Productivity increases thread around in my head.
Understanding some contributions will be driven by a total inability to understand the economic structure of our society.
Without a wages safety net in place, free market driven wages, we like America would have many more living on our streets true working poor.
I am afraid, truth DEMANDS, in my view remarks made by some about wages are, lets reverse it, lets have wage control, for every thing,and flat tax paid on every asset no exceptions, and price control on every thing, every sale taxed every price set .
Now I have entered the twilight world of failure to understand myself!