The whole system stinks.

Ho on earth our treasurer can receive the award for the worlds best defies logic, as he has resided over what has to be our worst four years in history and, had they taken away the injection from our mining, boy how different things would have been.

It's a joke to think he is the worlds best.

Another problemm is how they chop and change portfolios.

Nobody in the corporate world is that experienced, as these people can go from finance, to health, to education and then arts, all in just one term.

Rechtub I do not dislike you.
Still have that beer with you.
But hear me man please?
Your understanding of most issues needs repair.
You are talking rubbish, as a mate please consider my words.
Few do not agree.
You seem deep in a hole that you dug, fearing a storm on a sunny day that will not come.
Like it or not your understanding of this subject is nil!
I old mate, have no choice, you are on a list of just a few it is too painful to talk to.
My regards true regards but see you bloke.

Belly, with all due respect, I have a better handle on things than you, as, unlike you, I create jobs, take risks and provide for the masses.

It is very difficult to understand how the wheels turn when someone else turns them for you.

Just remember that mate.

The reason why so much of our money has been wasted and so many projects have failed is simply because these ministers are out of their depth.

History is a wonderful tool and will always show how good Howard was and how bad labor have been since they chopped the legs out from under their best leader in my time, bob.

Take the school halls. Builders would pit in a tender, without a quote and, simply because they were registered they got he job.

OUR PM was in charge of this debacle.

Insulation. Again, no checks and balances and, despite advise from experts, which they ignored, many lives have been ruined and some even lost.

Sme family business that were very successful have been sent to the wall due to incompitent government.

Now start taking some risks and I might listen to you and your labor puppets.

You lot have no idear how to cope other than to increase wages and drive jobs off shore.

Take a bow!

Belly, you say I am I'll informed.

Cast your mind back a few year, I told you the following would happen.

1. The insulation would fail.
2. Julia Gillard would become PM.
3. Fuel watch would be a flop.
4.Copenhagen would be a waste of time.
5. Labor would loose many seats at the election.
6. IR changes would cause mass job losses.

I don't think I need to go any further, as I was right on all of these, yet you call me I'll informed.

Care to defend that.

No not really.
It defends its self.
I leave the thread content to be different.
And if needed wrong.
I See our politicians being charged with?
Being Representative!
Just like us both good and bad, Bright and mad.
Handy as it turns out we can put the blame on every thing on them.
Things we do not understand.
Any thing at all, great to know our fears our dark thoughts right or wrong can be parceled up and blamed on them.
A truism, about wages, any job , any time any group.
If every one of us.
Every job or task.
Got the same wage.
No penalty rates, no over time, no shift allowances.
Soon , some jobs would not find workers, like Capitalism, self interest drives us all.
Soon after bosses would, with out unions, they would not exist, offer better pay, only in some jobs.
Soon that would become practice.
Wages would sky pocket, but some jobs unfilled
My local member is no mate of mine,but if he is as unaware of the theory's behind every action having an impact [He is not] as some lets cut his pay.
Answers exist for every problem, some spend far too much time inventing problems that do not exist to find answers.

few interesting points leaking out
back benchers pay is set to go from 140,000
to 250,000...not bad eh?

how about the average joe mug wage tax payers
begging for 2 %

also noted the beurocrats..in charge of flooding[in qld]
get million dolar bonus...great stuff mr x public servants
supposedly for your experteaze...lol you sleeze

anyhow its all at arms length...lol
thats a grerat joke..no doudt the consultants rates
relate to the pay rates they set

plus then of course the pubic servants..wage rates
relate to the govt members..wahe rates

we got to return to the set rate
SET IN THE CONSTITUTION

with no generous pension
and exclusion from other service for years after service
say one full electrorial cycle..

[heck why get angry]
most posters here are public service
ya getting a wage pension increase floks
great eh

all that and flexie time too
30 hours a week?

bah
and i cant even get a limited net acces
reliably on line...curses on the lot of ya