Again I offer this thread as a look in to the heart of Australian politics.
Seeing the links and statements.
But still seeing it referred to as a tax on football.
And the denigration of two I dislike, because they sided with Labor.
Men like Sir Robert Menzies Winston Churchill must be rolling in their graves.
Australia's two leaders as useless as the proverbial on a Bull, have dragged us in to this Childish junk in place of reviewing politics .

Belly,
It is most likely that labor will come back, post Gillard, and once again win government in their own right. However i cannot see it winning at the next election as I see it having problems of unpopular policy and compedence, which is more than just a leader. At this point it seems that Abbott will have a shot at being PM and how he goes at that only time will tell. Good for Labor if he makes a mess of it. If he has any sence at all he will try to stay well out of this issue, right now.

You obviously think the pokies addiction as a major problem and you may be right to push for changes that may reduce the problem. The pokies industry, and patrons, will not take kindly to having their activities curtailed. Calling Wilkies proposed self limits on spending a 'footy tax' by someone, is only a start of what is to come and no, I do not see it as being a new low.

The all time low was reached by both parties, with the persecution and jailing of Pauline Hanson. Our first political prisoner. Closely followed by the AGW advocates calling sceptics 'deniers' linking them to the holocoust. Labeling those opposed to MC as 'racist' is also about as low as one can get.

Banjo you understand I love the Australian Labor Party.
And that I fear it too.
I know my love is not for a perfect party, it is tainted.
I how ever remain proud, that I unlike a poster here, understand the blemishes of my side.
My actions are in defense of the ALP.
To stand on a hill and shout about my sides wrongs is,, to demand accountability.
This debate/thread fails both sides.
It should NEVER BE FORGOTTEN.
NSW has had criminal Premiers two, one from each side.
No informed supporter of both teams would say it is not true.
Just as DRUGS the very worst of them, can be and has been traced back to rich men of influence in this state.
Criminal activity in poker machines can be found ,we only have to look.
I tread on dangerous ground, truth can do great harm, but Labor, my team, sold NSW state Lottery's formed first for charitable reasons.
It was making money it was sold for less than its value.
With it went, wait for it, the millions of dollars in the unclaimed winners fund.
Rightfully owned by? general revenue, tax payers.
Gambling in NSW funds crime/makes criminals.
Show me one word from my opponent such as these about his side.
Look at the feebleness of football tax, the deceptiveness of the problem gamblers figures, put up instead of the true amount.
KNOW that is what is to be elected in 2013,not policy's.
My story here is about my side,the worst side then, but it could have been about conservatives.
We by taking sides let such take place.
We owe it to our selfs to be honest at the lower end poker machines are run by criminals for criminals and we sponsor hungry kids to miss use political point scoring, how sad are some?

http://www.smh.com.au/national/pokies-aussie-jackpot-20111001-1l2r4.html
The link contains facts and figures.
In truth, look closely, fearful ones, but not on their own evidence to support my view the limit is worth while.
IF the figures that do show my state is far the worst, showed how many are pubs?
Again I under line, this thread has taken on a tainting.
It has changed from a question about a socially disturbing problem.
To one about Australian Politics.
That too is tainted.
By a need to knife the other side, at all costs, not find the best answers.
Some, even our forums owner, may find my next statement offensive.
But that tainting has the finger prints of Tony Abbott all over it.

I think it has run its course.
But that it achieved something.
I stared with my total disapproval of the men behind the move.
Think I pointed out it could have been done/should have, long ago outside Parliament.
I highlighted my unhappiness with, well frankly DOGS in my party in NSW who made money from letting them run riot.
The usual got going, every problem in this country was bought about by the ALP.
And every thing we try to fix is wrong.
Figures put out time and again about just how bad it is got covered in mud.
AND despite about 20% of all venues being football clubs nothing can divert the intent to call it a tax on clubs.
Even good acts, needed acts,by an unpopular government get buried in humus.
2013 maybe sooner,we will see how those destroying our country's togetherness can take it.

It looks as though Abbott is out manoeuvring Juliar at every turn. Imagine working suburbs of western Sydney becoming liberal.