Deevo

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'the fundamental laws of physics prohibit it. ' no such thing as a law without a law giver. think!

Iam so glad that the Pharaoh system is still in action:) could you image a world with out:) well I can. Getting back, religious people are far happier, but at what cost? See if one thinks God will fix it all and you don't have to worry, that makes me worry.

God said " God will help the people, if the people can help themselves.

cactus

Cactus you write
'God said " God will help the people, if the people can help themselves.'

Which God said that? By the way if you think you are good enough to have a right standing with God without Christ you are badly mistaken. Humans have shown they are incapable of even breathing without God.

The phrase is often quoted to emphasize the importance of taking initiative.

The beliefs of Americans regarding this phrase and the Bible has been studied by Christian demographer and pollster George Barna of The Barna Group. To the statement "The Bible teaches that God helps those who help themselves"; 53% of Americans agree strongly, 22% agree somewhat, 7% disagree somewhat, 14% disagree strongly, and 5% stated they don't know. Of "born-again" Christians 68% agreed, and 81% of non "born-again" Christians agreed with the statement. In a February 2000 poll, 53% strongly agreed and 22% agreed somewhat that the Bible teaches the phrase. Of the 14 questions asked, this was the least biblical response, according to Barna. A poll in the late 1990s showed the majority (81%) believe the concept is taught by the Bible, another stating 82%.

It even topped a poll of the most widely known "Bible verse", despite the fact it is not stated there[14][15] 75% of American teenagers believe it is the central message of the Bible.

Barna critiques this evidence of Americans' unfamiliarity with the Bible, and believe the statement actually conflicts with the Bible's view of God's kindness towards people, none of whom deserve it – "grace". It "suggests a spiritual self-reliance inconsistent with Christianity" according to David Kinnaman, vice president of the Barna Research Group. Christian minister Erwin Lutzer argues there is some support for this saying in the Bible (2 Thessalonians 3:10, James 4:8), however much more often God helps those who cannot help themselves, which is what grace is about (Ephesians 2:4–5, Romans 4:4–5, Luke 18:9–14).

cactus

Continued....

The phrase has featured in United States popular culture. In a "Jaywalking" sketch on The Tonight Show, comedian host Jay Leno asked random people on the street to name one of the Ten Commandments. The most popular response (at least, as edited by the producers), was "God helps those who help themselves." Political commentator Bill O'Reilly employed the phrase, in responding to Jim McDermott who argued, "This is Christmas time. We talk about Good Samaritans, the poor, the little baby Jesus in the cradle and all this stuff. And then we say to the unemployed we won't give you a check to feed your family. That's simply wrong." O'Reilly argued for a more selective approach to unemployment benefits, and the importance of individual responsibility, concluding "while Jesus promoted charity at the highest level, he was not self-destructive. The Lord helps those who help themselves. Does he not?" Political comedian Stephen Colbert parodied him in response, concluding in character, "if this is going to be a Christian nation that doesn't help the poor, either we've got to pretend that Jesus was just as selfish as we are, or we've got to acknowledge that he commanded us to love the poor and serve the needy without condition; and then admit that we just don't want to do it.

Pretty well human, if you ask me:)

cactus

Dear Cactus,
I totally agree with every word of your post, I was appalled that some Republicans openly stated that welfare to the poor is a scam, how's that for the so-called religious?
But anyway, to each his own I guess.
NSB