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Asylum Seekers - The other option
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Posted by Bazz, Thursday, 8 September 2011 11:16:44 AM
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Growth always follows the same pattern, it doesn't matter whether you're dealing with population growth or commodity prices the cycles are almost identical.
http://www.cyclesresearchinstitute.org/cycles-research/general-dewey.shtml When the Ancient Money Power Elites talk about "sustainable growth" they really mean they want to keep growth on an ever upward trajectory,they don't mean living within one's means. The Ancient Money Power Elites know that in the end their way of life will consume the entire planet so they have but a few options. -Move growth around in an endless shell game with some regions lying fallow while others become temporary "Tigers". -Expand outward into the galaxy. -De populate the planet to extend their time frame. -Release a new form of physics and a new energy source which they can control and monopolise. The planets aligned in about 1680 and White people took off like a rocket and we had another big boost in about 1950,the Elites had to keep us occupied with endless conquests, revolutions and wars or...who knows, we might have wiped them out, or booted them off the planet. The hubbub over 2012 and the Arab and African risings are the Elites trying to keep in front of those groups, to keep them pinned down because they are coming to a peak in their astrological cycle and they will begin to change in some way, as we did. I don't like the term "Illuminati" but these Money Elites are very old secret societies following ancient sciences like astrology and alchemy, they have some big Bee in their bonnet over 2050 and their new world order, all this other amazing stuff we're seeing is part of their show. Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Thursday, 8 September 2011 7:03:10 PM
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Jay of Melbourne:
Now, methinks it is becoming very close to AFL grand final in Melbourne. I have, in the past, always found you to be a very rational person! Posted by diver dan, Thursday, 8 September 2011 9:17:16 PM
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...I believe the whole process of immigration needs the same microscopic examination the illegals are currently (not enjoying)!
...When a family can enter Australia by visa for the period covering the education of a child, for example, why come illegally by boat? With so many opportunities available to “scam” entry into Australia, what is the problem with this lot? ...Do what the Chinese do, enter into this country under the guise of a business visa, and sell shells in the local shopping mall for a couple of years, then become eligible for Australian citizenship as a successful business operator. The list is endless! ...If I could get a message to the boat people, it would be to get on board the real gravy train and enter this country by the many and varied (Available) openings presented by the immigration department; save the Australian taxpayers billions of their hard-won dollars please. ...Websites are available to assist you to choose a “scam” most suited to your circumstances! Posted by diver dan, Thursday, 8 September 2011 9:58:07 PM
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Diver Dan.
Oh it be, it just be. I'm only pointing out that these cycles are largely inevitable,that terrestrial events are driven by offworld or cosmic cycles, populations go up and they go down, resources wax and wane, things grow, they mature and decline then start growing again. There will be an influx of refugees then it will peak and taper off, 'tis the way of things, ditto the enthusiasm for refugee rights, it's probably reached it's peak and now is declining i poularity. Astrology is the original science, it's the fundamental way of understanding ourselves which is common to all races, it stands to reason that if you had elitist groups intent on global hegemony they'd be occulting such arts so they could monopolise them. Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Thursday, 8 September 2011 10:32:17 PM
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Jay of Melbourne …Part One…
...Well, not being a being tending to lend himself to the non-being of being in the nether world of Astrology, I am not as certain as yourself, Astrology can be used as a convincing alternative to the more conventional and acceptable methods of prediction available to us to determine the direction of history. ...Above, I examined the ease of conventional means of entry into this country; the eternal question arises, why illegals persist in the methods of bludgeoning Australians into accepting them as boat arrivals, when the bleeding obvious suggests, (due to natural cynicism towards any hope, myself, that honesty will prevail), illegals have at their fingertips, the means to scam their way through any barriers the immigration department (pretend) in install, as an impediment to ingress to Australian shores, of anybody. Posted by diver dan, Friday, 9 September 2011 8:44:30 AM
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However something like you suggest will inevitably come to pass.
Still further down the track as food gets scarce and expensive the
poorer people will no longer be able to afford the air fare to
Indonesia let alone the boat fee to Australia.
As the world economies start contracting there may well be large
movements of hungry people, but these people will only have their feet
for transport and what is happening in Somalia & Kenya will be the
typical scene.
World growth is now close to zero, some countries have small amounts
of growth, like Australia, and some like the US & Europe are having
difficulty getting above zero. China and India between them are
using most of the worlds growth.
Oil is becoming more expensive because the places where it is being
found are harder to work in, such as far below the ocean floor or in
risky political locations.
With more expensive fuel the cost of food production & transport
will increase making large populations very poor.
Where it gets applied is that the fuel bill takes up a larger
proportion of GDP, finally reaching a point where nothing is left for
other uses and contraction sets in.
This what happened in the US causing the sub prime housing collapse.
Indonesia passed peak oil some years back and is no longer an oil
exporter but an importer competing with Australia in the Asian fuel market.
Indonesian population before the oil age was significantly less
than it is now. As their oil production further depletes and import
prices rise their agriculture prices will rise because they will not
be able to produce enough food for their now 200 + million people.
They may be forced towards Australia.
The world's population has risen to 6+ billion on the back of cheap
oil. As oil gets scarce and expensive it will not be possible to
support such a large world population.
What this will do to immigration I leave to your imagination.