The whole country,except for Hanson-Young, is now mocking Labor.

Me, I shudder at the money wasted on the whole illegal boat people fiasco and am thankfull that this mob didn't give us a Republic. Can anyone imagine what sort of shamozzle that would be?

This is what happens when warped ideology is put ahead of practicality.

They take something that works, change it with their warped ideology and completely stuff it up. About 200 have died and the cost is enormous. Now there is one hell of a job to fix it, again at great cost.

Labor deserves to be mocked by everyone as they have shown that they could not pour water out of a bucket, with directions written on the base. My list of stuff ups grows.

If I were leader of the Opposition, I would not help Labor in this, I would rub their noses in the mess they created. But Labor will not learn.

You cannot fix stupidity.

I'm almost convinced that this Malaysian solution scheme is a deliberately flawed attempt to sink border security.

Just like the Bill of Rights was built to fail by putting zero-credibility religious nutter (and refugee advocate) Frank Brennan in charge;

This attempt to vaguely pretend to be preventing asylum seekers (which conservatives would theoretically not want to argue with for fear of dropping any form of asylum bill entirely)- will prove expensive and result in more people being let in (so the usual bunch of naysayers can use this to peddle the 'its expensive and they come in anyway' general mantra for 'pro-refugee advocacy';

Putting aside that we rarely deport people, and apparently are considering to actually compensate these people for their failed attempt to force entry into our country.

Meanwhile, much of Europe deports asylum seekers much more readily

The best possible opportunity for little Julia to rehabilitate her self.

First quickly get a bill into parliament, to "fix" the law, & put these jumped up dills, the judges, in their place, if it passes.

Secondly to wedge Abbott.

Such a bill puts him in the position of,

1/ Having to pass it, for the good of the country, letting Julia out of one of the corners she has painted herself into.

2/ Stop it passing, & give some weight to the Labor claim that he is just an opportunist, not interested in good government.

In the former case the lefties would crow, but Abbott could look a bit like a statesman to many, if he played it right. In the latter Julia looks almost like she did something right. Better still, Abbott looks like a petulant kid.

This is wrong, we should elect our judges with the parliament, so we could get rid of this swill, but it has made things a bit more interesting.

AMMONITE! if it was not you who said in such a thread you are aware most Australians do not care I am sorry.
However having seen you post in various names, I am finished trying to talk to you.
Shadow Minister, Lexi, yes I agree, Gillard must eat her humble pie.
Right now,for the information of Bazz and others, the word is no of shore stuff can take place not one of shore process.
So Gillard Abbott get together.
Put our country first.
Make a law in the place such are MADE Parliament, to stop the boats.
Here are the implications of not doing it chances out of ten of them coming true in my view Labor out of office for ten years 10
Liberals confronting same problem ten
Smuggling makes our country look dumb 10
Can we leave our biases at the door, is it true most Australians want the boats stopped.
And is cit true, be honest! most hold the greens in contempt?
In the most BIZARRE WAY I truly think,the greens unless they compromise on this issue bury both them selves and Labor.
Only Labor, one day will climb out of.
I know this, greens are in bigger numbers here on line than they ever will out side in the real world
Support for the greens is support for conservative government.

Just for the record and according to Alexander Downers own admission on the ABC, but the Nauru/TPV combination never actually stopped any boats from leaving for our shores.

George Bush's military adventures temporarily decreased the international flow rate of refugees and despite the usual claims, boats still left for Australia during those alleged years.

Fortunately on those occasions they were seaworthy enough to be turned around by our Navy and news of their existence was not reported by the media.

"The other thing we did, which we did more sotto voce was to tow the boats – I must say this is not something that has generated much publicity recently in Australia – we used to get the Navy not to guide the boats into the Australian shore line what we did was [laughs] we got the navy to tow the boats back to the Indonesian territorial waters, left the boats with enough fuel, food and so on to get to a port in Indonesia – guided them where to go – and them left them.
Obviously monitored them to make sure the boat was safe but disappeared over the horizon. And this worked very effectively, but we did this without any publicity, we didn’t run around boasting that we were doing this because we knew the Indonesian accepted these people back through gritted teeth." - Downer 13/11/2009

This whole exercise has been almost a decade of wasted years at a huge financial cost to the public plus the trashing of our International reputation - all for the sake of immediate political grandstanding to win an election campaign.

Just like it will again.

Wobbles,

"Just for the record and according to Alexander Downers own admission on the ABC, but the Nauru/TPV combination never actually stopped any boats from leaving for our shores."

Rubbish.

Here Downer specifically recommends a return to the Pacific solution to stop the boats.

http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2010/s2945470.htm