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Is Julia linking of her credibility with Thomson terminal for Labor?

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Oh belly you are such a sook.

I could not give a toss if you decide to sook and take your ball and leave.

Grow up!

You lot are simply grasping at straws in a desperate attempt to hold on to what little dignity your beloved labor party still ha, if any.

If you are simply trying to stall, in an attempt to turn the tides and stop the rot, just remember, we all only have one life and none of us will live long enough to see that happen.

They are. Party in politic meltdown nd they have achieved this all by themselves.

Did I say in record time!
Posted by rehctub, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 9:03:03 PM
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How can you make a case Arjay, for the lesser of two evil's theory.

The Govt we have provided stimulus when it was needed, at the GFC. (albeit bumbling),
have increased funding to health, education, childcare, infrastructure, disability services etc, things neglected downsized and defunded during the Howard years; have plan to tax polluters and protect punters from their onslaught.

In contrast Abbott plans to fund polluters and international mining giants with public money, slash $70 billion from the public budget to do it, in a business as usual economy, and defend the Pacific solution.

The very thing that the Gillard Gov't can't even defend in it's own High Court at this time.
A remnant of the oppositions own making in the first place, that changed the way Australians view refugee's arriving by boat. Another storm in a teacup blown out of all proportion for political advantage during the Howard years.

If you want more, lets get into the sale of valuable public assets, as an economic policy. Lesser of two evil's ? hardly Arjay.
Posted by thinker 2, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 9:05:32 PM
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Thinker 2.Labor have taken us from a 20 $ billion surplus to a $80 billion deficit that we know of.NSW labor admitted to a $1 billion deficit which we now find is $ 5 billion deficit.There will have to be cuts in the PS.The Dept of Climate Change BS should be the first to go.

We need to put pressure on Abbott to make the RBA the prime lender to our banks rather than borrowing from the US Fed.This will save us from total economic meltdown which is looming large on our horizon.

Abbott does not inspire me but Gillard is totally clueless.
Posted by Arjay, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 9:26:17 PM
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Lexi,

Cash for visas scandal in 2003, you must really be grasping. Firstly the accusation was that an immigrant paid a lobbyist to apply on his behalf to the minister, the greens and labor never managed to produce any more than innuendo.

That there is a need for guidelines for lobbyists there is no doubt, but this accusation was about creating smoke whether or not there was a fire. It died a natural death.

TRTL,

I am a fan of competent government run with economically sound policies, so yes that makes me a liberal stooge. That you would use such language to attack me, and not any of the other clearly biased posters would imply that you are a labor stooge.

If you think I am biased, well I am, and my reasons are sound, so suck it up.

My criticisms are of the present government and the policies that affect my life. I am not aware of the coalition implementing any policies that adversely affect me at the moment. My criticisms are all supported with facts and analysis unlike the unsupported innuendo that some others post.

Thinker2

The government is clinging to power by means most foul, and protecting a corrupt minister from the law is most foul.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Wednesday, 24 August 2011 5:10:08 AM
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Thinker 2, given that I am not partisan to the current left or right politicians I say that the law must be impartial of office or bearing and we deal with the criminality of the current miscreants. I grew up on the east coast and watched the corrupt coalition in QLD and NSW for twenty years. I had the expectation of a morally upright left clearing away the nepotism and corruption so abundantly obvious in both these right led states, it never happened, Labor got into NSW and the corruption and nepotism went on unabated, Labor got into Qld and the beat also went on, just a different drummer. All the current crop of politicians are standard issues, without vision and lacking…..lacking what you may ask? Lacking everything to my mind.
Posted by sonofgloin, Wednesday, 24 August 2011 8:21:34 AM
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SM,

Wrong again.

I'm not "grasping," as you put it.
Merely responding to your request for
any Liberal scandals in the last decade.
And the facts are on the websites - all
one has to do is Google them.

Also, the accusations that were involved in
the "Cash-for-Visas," scandal were numerous
and as a law-website clearly states -
"Cash-for Visas," Inquiry clears Ruddock -
GRUDGINGLY!" That is to say that he was cleared - yes.
But that doesn't mean he was innocent.

The Senate inquiry into ministerial indiscretion
under the Immigration Act - the Committee accused
Ruddock (and his Department) of obstruction and
called for urgent reforms. The Committee found that
lack of transparency and accountability made the
Minister for Immigration vulnerable to corruption,
the majority report said.

They also made it quite clear that the reasons the
Committee had found no evidence was because the
Immigration Department was being obstructive.

"The Committtee was denied access to relevant
department files and Officer's notes that could have
cleared the Attorney-General of any wrongdoing. "

"This was clearly done deliberately by the Government
to protect Mr Ruddock from further scrutiny."

If you're interested in the full details - Lateline
did a full coverage of this, as did the ABC, SBS, The Sydney
Morning Herald, and many other sources. Google them.
Posted by Lexi, Wednesday, 24 August 2011 11:09:12 AM
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