Ammonite, Pelican,

The presumption of innocence is a valid position where the issue is being dealt with by the correct authorities, such as in the case with MJF, with a fixed time line to its conclusion at the trial on Sept 1.

With CT, there is no trial yet, and the reason for this is the subterfuge employed by Juliar Gillard to cover up the crimes. What is clear is that fraud has been committed against the union, either by a master forger who had Thomson's credit card, driver's license and phone, or by Thomson himself.

If Labor deliberately obstructs the process of justice, then the presumption of innocence wears a little thin.

Why not? it is Abbott and his like who betray justice and Democracy.
Why wait till he is charged.
Or for a trial, convict the bugger now.
Whoops, lets not mention the Liberal Senator who has been charged.
No way we want to get ahead of justice here, in her case.
And those who faced charges in the last Parliament, miss use of printing allowances, they got cleared.
Lets get this bloke just in case he is too!
About now, our Tony, is standing out the front of Parliament, addressing his thinking equals.
They are screaming to end DEMOCRACY call an election no grounds yet exist for.;
This mud we now live in called Australian politics is starting to stink.

Belly,

This is easily resolved by referring the matter to the police.

The reason that the stink of corruption emanates from Juliar Gillard is that the federal Labor party is covering up the issue and stopping any investigation.

Shadow Minister may I sat I feel sorry for you.
No honestly I do.
In all the years we have played verbal tennis you not once came on to the court in possession of a mirror.
Always and forever you see only the bad on my side the good on yours.
On little more than hope he can force an election, using words you well could have written.
Your mate Mad monk Tony, has left his head behind.
I still see your thread as an attempted lynching, he has not yet been charged.
The umpire, fair work Australia is investigating him, wait for the results please.

Thompson has been caught stealing $100,000 from his Union over 4 yrs.He's gone and so are Labor.

If there is a criminal charge the authorities should get on with it and save us all the eternal politicking. The PM needs to make the right decision on this, it is not good enough to support the insupportable just to avoid a bi-election if there is any truth to the allegations.

Put your left foot in Mary Jo Fisher also deservers the presumption of innocence until a jury can decide.