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Is Julia linking of her credibility with Thomson terminal for Labor?
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Posted by thinker 2, Thursday, 25 August 2011 9:03:07 PM
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thinker2
...Yea, but all parties are guilty of perpetuating the now long standing scam of slave labour dressed up as traineeships… not just blacks caught up in that one… Posted by diver dan, Thursday, 25 August 2011 11:25:09 PM
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The extent of the cover up attempt by labor is slowly leaking out.
"Mr Williamson, a former ALP president, had proposed his own motion the night before that made no mention of NSW police, noted that the matter was before Fair Work Australia and would have placed a gag on any further statements by union leaders about Mr Thomson. However, Mr Williamson went to Newcastle on the day of an HSU meeting in Sydney, and was outmanoeuvred by rebels who were determined that there would be a police investigation and they would not be silenced." "Factional sources said many ALP figures thought Mr Williamson had the Thomson matter "in hand", and would be alarmed they had been blindsided." This is further compounded by reports that Juliar Gillard's staffers knew of this in 2009, and contacted the fair work tribunal. Posted by Shadow Minister, Friday, 26 August 2011 7:44:10 AM
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Belly:>> SOG, I weary of your miss placed view of your ability to understand.
PS Bob Carr is the best NSW leader in my lifetime.<< Re my ability to understand, you mistake my utterances of facts as an ideological smear campaign, Belly if this government were credible in any way what so ever I would recognize it, but they are hopeless. What you do not seem to understand is that the agenda set for Australia by the current ALP leadership is driven by Fabian ideology imported directly from Britain. Your comment about the “quality” of Bob Carr differs from Nifty Nev’s appraisal; I will quote his rational thoughts on Bob after I have enlightened you on what “quality” of a premier Bob was to his constituency. Bob came in because Barry was twenty seats down in 88, it took Bob seven years to get into power and he held it for ten. Bob’s sustained failure to deliver on big-ticket policy items, such as State rail, roads, hospitals and public safety should have seen him gone second term, but the electorate are slow leaning and Bob spins like a top. Under Bob investment in the housing market dropped as TAX after TAX was lumbered on the worker who had an investment property as well as a domicile, tradesmen went north and south. Under Bob NSW lagged the nation in economic and jobs growth, where we lead the nation until then, remember the premier state….Anyway this is what Neville Wran said of Bob Carr in 2005: “Mr. Carr's greatest achievement "was to keep winning elections". A fair call on the achievements of the Carr Premiership. He is the modern Labor FABIAN, a real ALP socialist, he ran off to the usury trade via Macquarie bank. Latte socialists, green socialists, capitalist socialists, where are the real socialists? Posted by sonofgloin, Friday, 26 August 2011 5:16:55 PM
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True diver dan.
My question "Is it not the job of a good Gov't, to at least seek to preserve the living standards of it's constituents ? ", remains un-addressed I note SM. Having presumed that it is, I would also suggest that it was once also "the role or obligation of Business to provide jobs. Not just jobs, but real jobs with real wages and conditions", in the truly free market economy that Australia once enjoyed. Jobs that did not erode your living standards as you work, or provided uncertainty and lack of security as we see most Australian consumers and taxpayers facing today. The Big end of town is making most of the money today and paying the least of the tax, whilst no longer obliged to make any real commitment to their employees, such as wages indexed to the rate of inflation or job security, thereby maintaining living standards, Is anyone controlling their anti-competitive behaviour in the margins that they are reaping in the privatised essential services area's of the economy after purchasing them for a song. No, the Gov't is not!. They (big business) are not doing anything illegal. Manipulative margin juggling and collusion such as we see in petrol pricing today, was not legal prior to the Howard years and is the most obvious example of the destruction of the T P Acts we see today. Un-trameled regulatory environments lower the bar for most people. This is what has happened and todays Govt really has no way to stop the continuing decline of living standards for most people without strengthening/restoring the regulatory environment and reinstating competition and previously understood Australian employment principles. If they tried, big business and commercial media editorials would combine in massive multi million dollar pre election ad campaigns. We are **it in a bucket I think, and the last thing we need, is an election. Posted by thinker 2, Friday, 26 August 2011 10:08:15 PM
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http://www.smh.com.au/national/mps-on-both-sides-want-thomson-to-be-treated-gently-20110827-1jfgg.html
In the dark mess that is Australian Politics and a lost inventive/destructive Media, here is evidence of what the best informed already knew. On both sides of the house better, more caring people exist. I am quite sure immovably sure, the intention has not been justice. It has been bringing down a government. This man, not yet found guilty , yet, is but fodder. For an opposition on record for white washing the sins of its own. If and gee its a big if, Labor survives an election, it will not be because of the great legislation it is getting past. It will survive if and only if, a brick can be taken from the wall of Deceit Abbott's section of conservative Australia has constructed. Nothing then,can save the landslide that would follow. Posted by Belly, Sunday, 28 August 2011 5:37:21 AM
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Shame we haven't got the benefits in place of Kevin Rudd's original Mining Super Profits Tax so we could have had an appropriate piece of those Super Profits from OUR resources.
It's also a shame that 60%+ of jobs provided in Australia by International Mining Conglomerates are casual. Even local Miners have been found to be exploiting indigenous workers and have been in fact paying them $50 a day, and making them sleep outside (rough), in the guise of a Training Program. (I will provide an ABC link).