Shadow Minister

I should have added that was copied from a newspaper that a very Senior Journalist. He spent six weeks investigating evidence put before him. Had he not been so senior the story would have never gone to print at all. You know how the media is controlled no doubt. This is why this has bee a problem for so long . Both these media empires were involved in this trade as well Packer & Murdock.
Our intentions have not *changed and if Mr Abbott likes the programe and whats on the table in regards any evidence of a alp Minister misleading public it might go well. Or something else might pop up to take interest away. At this stage its looking good but only fools part with evidence before they get what they want - you would agree I am sure.

Your story up the top keeps me aware of course how the games played.

SM- the other thing is I am just posting as me Kerry. There are people dropping private names and names of organizations all over this forum.

These people are not here to defend themselves. So as its clearly done to stop me posting I may just very well have to.

T/C Kerry

No longer content with an "Australian Idol" Leader based selection procedure for governments, it's come down to simple morality tales.

Better not mention the Lib ex-PM who died "on the job" and the other one caught pants-less in Memphis, the other drunken womaniser who used to throw up on aeroplanes before they took off or even the potential PM who walked out on his family on Christmas Eve for his mistress. Without even going into which ex-Ministers were "playing bouncy-bouncy" with each other while in Canberra, there are many many more examples.

Nobody has a monopoly on morality just on the basis of their political leanings. Best to just ignore the lot of them - chair-sniffers included.

rache,

Lets face it as Lexi said no side- or person are without fault.
I do think what they do in their personal time however should be left out overall. Its what they do for their people in work hours that counts. ALP have a very sneaky way of making changes they think they can pull off. Just the other day I witnessed another class act and was glad i was there.
The phone rings( disabled lady I assist once a fortnight) its the home maintenance service through hacks state gov.
We are calling to ask you why you cant work- what medically is wrong with you etc. Shes 66 and disabled. That aside its from the people who fix taps etc ! Turns out there are changes being made... yeh of course, cuts somebody has to pay for that aid Rudd just doubled to Africa. Now if your 65 you have to wait until your 70 to get help. So Sad. No letters- and it could lets face it be anybody on the phone. I doubt the plumber has much experience in faulty bladders:) Hopeless. We really all should get up from behind our desks and walk in a turf the lot rache cheers.

rache, goodonya mate! but in truth Shadow Minister has a point, never ever wanted to say that!
I come from a life time of union rank and file.
My days as an official honored me, but could have began twenty years before I just did not think I was good enought to be one.
I got that wrong, I was.
But it is true, the charges laid against this bloke, he had no right to EVER spend members cash this way.
I have, and have seen other Australian Workers Union officials give freely from my own pocket.
And refused gifts, the odd carton of beer at Christmas , was as often as not given to a member.
But as in politics life its self, if you rort the job, use it for your own benefit, and some do, its a crime.
No time for Shadow Ministers one eyed views but, while I think the Abbott team makes it almost worth while [I think they are untrust worthy] he should be in prison.
Know however many on both sides should be in the past present and no doubt future the positions they hold see them avoid what you and I could not.

Hi SM...

I see you have incurred the spluttering ire of the OLO "league of lefties"...

"For a party that supposedly stands for family values, this lack of action is another example of breathtaking hypocrisy."

It could be worse...

the late Bob Collins expressed similar traits but died before anyone could get him to trial

to remind us

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/national/collins-killed-himself-report/story-e6freooo-1111114505163

to quote "Toohey writes that Mr Collins "did untold damage" to his alleged victims, was "consumed by a sickness" and was "the worst kind of hypocrite" when he spoke about the need to keep children safe."

it is, as they say, "leftard-typical"

My first loyalty is to OLO.
The last time I complained about a post to our sites owner and administrator about such a post as Cols above.
One that highlighted MAGGOTS within my party who had COMMITTED SEX CRIMES AGAINST KIDS!
And that thread even inferred I was a pedophile, I was not happy with the answer.
I was told, it had taken long and hard thought, before deleting it, and CONSIDERING MY PARTY'S HISTORY! only that it inferred I was a pedophile saw it deleted.
We, most of us, can be very rude, shamelessly so!
We DEFAME OLO not excluding my self here.
GY you have intervened in a thread here, FOR FAR LESS THAN THIS!
I think telling me, using the insult that I am lefty,is as bad as calling me a Ba*&^ard!
Col you are an unloved man, how dare you insult every one who thinks differently than you.
In dozens of threads, my right to opinions other than others has me branded, lefty
Not only you recently others took the stick to me for being an ALP voter?
I think GY you are too nice,yes conservative and yes very much so, but at some point in time we must ask, is free speech, on any civilized subject, to be freedom for some to get right down in the gutter.
Lets not get emotional, some may feel like striking me, that is ok, no problem for me,but we remember in the end OLO foremost is Worth defending.