Shadow Minister
I will respond to your opening.I would be 90% sure the guys innocent.
Dont know much about him- but I bet if I looked hes pretty popular.
Its the oldest trick in the book to discredit somebody tbo.
Is used regally on Whistle Lowers in particular coppers. Its done for many reasons- not only to discredit but to drag people down & the take their eye off the ball. At times the reason is simply they peeved somebody off. I Can help out re AWB SM but I will do so via responding to others.
I did think about what you said a few weeks ago SM & only today discussed a meeting with Mr Abbott with another Minister.Of course they want the info on the gov & atm thats not possible given the inquiry underway. Still I assume it would be ages before he would be available if"" he is at all. Time will see if he likes the policy figures X. So you cant say anymore i have neglected my duty to try.

As for AWB massive cover up yes. Howard said he didnt know why it was closed ring Peter- Peter said - no money:_

However Mr Rudd takes the prize for heading for the hills as shadow Minister when dumped in his lap. There was no way ALP wanted to take on AWB Landmark and they didnt - and they wont.
They just carry on sd the libs set in place.
I assure you the AWB was not all money from wheat- wish it was tbo.
Of course the hot potato it is- Wesfarmers sold to Australian Wheat Board in October 2003 trying to avoid the shame of the Cormo express scandal- AWB have since sold- the smell follows them however wherever it goes

SM,

My point was - no party is without flaws.
However, it's obviously difficult for you
to see the bigger picture with your one-eye.
Fair enough. As I stated earlier - carry on
as before. I'm simply looking forward to the
day when you'll be more even-handed is all.
Until then - I'll simply leave you to do your
job.

Cheers.

Shadow Minister

Pardon, I just read the entire first post. I guess I shouldnt try to do this when I am so busy because I miss things. TBO SM I am feeling really uncomfortable. I said to you I dont have time to look but I bet hes really popular. ( meaning his seats important)

Didn't know how important he was because believe it or not I dont really follow politics. This is not good SM .It reminds me how Pauline set set up - like her or not. Tell you what I think - if I am correct in assumptions this could well turn around 360% to bite somebody on the bum imop.

If that *is the case you would wonder why the risk was taken & that brings about more concerns. The old trick - your dammed if you do & damned if you dont applies. If he drags it through court - mus sticks even if he wins.

But at the end of the day thee isnt much talent on either side which is why people have voted with their feet to greens or others.

Nice try with the inuendo, but there was nothing to stick to the libs w.r.t the AWB scandal.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Wednesday, 3 August 2011 7:59:00 PM

Sorry SM , I just saw your comment above as I was leaving the thread.

Thats not true at all . AWB was one of the biggest white washes pulled off In Australian History. ( and there has been a few)

The problem for ALP with the AWB is they would have loved to have used the stuff provided to Rudd especially at the time but ALP were not innocents either.

Governments come and go every three or four years and the system simply rolls over from one to another like a roll over bank account.

ALP knew if they touched AWB that would be the end - they thought.

These guys involved with AWB Landmark call them as you wish are the Underbelly's` That is why Rudd headed for the hills and that must of hurt back then to have to pass up getting Costello and Co charged among many others.

Possibly imop the only poly that may be been prepared to take that one would be xenophone - but he wasn't around at that time.

What you have to remember guys each Premier has Minister of trade rights / powers for their states . You got heaps of ALP state govs

So that would leave nobody to run anything- Probably we would be all better off when you think about it.

Kerry

KA,

Really,

Perhaps you have some information that the Judicial enquiry into the AWB didn't? Could you share it with us?

Shadow Minister

I will I promise and this is not a cop out - I just need to speak with somebody first. I am busy with another inquiry and there's going to be things I cant give atm. Also we are talking about meeting with Mr Abbott. I must put that first. I can talk freely about Kevin Rudd's part - if that helps.?

The AWB inquiry- of *course was informed . Its important you understand how these things are set up. I am not saying you dont - you would understand the term shaving evidence yes?

For the moment I will post this=fyi

http://www.livexports.com/cowgun.html

I have always been more disgusted with Kevin Rudd over the AWB Inquiry & rightfully so. Headed for the hills- Other than the offer of a meeting a cuppa - nothing! Furious some people send strippers to the front of AWN to expose the cover & tbo at that time expose Rudd just as much. He has a duty to inform the public.

As soon as he was elected contact was made to his office to see what then- he was prepared to do. Promises were made- Mr Rudd said just give him two weeks to settle in - still waiting.