Ammonite,

I am not surprised at your big hearted approach by reading many of your posts. However the old saying goes again- Thee is nothing wrong with a person bar their intentions. Yours are good but not all mankind are alike.

Just to give you one example why thats a bad idea in several countries just like here they have their own corrupt little scams. You can pay ( it used to be $200 ) to be stamped as having had health checks. To allow people just walk into the community at large without making sure health and security checks are done isn't kind to anybody.

In my opinion the Government need to keep Mr Patel away from Christmas Island. What the boat people dont need is people stirring them up. Remember if they pass tests in Malaysia they will be back here in Australia to start new lives.

Lets not allow others to mess those opportunists up for them while sending the peoples smugglers clear messages.

If we were to remove policys and do what you say we would be flooded with ships and more people and kids would be drowned at sea.

If the King is working in that field he would know these people are in fact given preference of housing over our own Aussie people.

They wait 10 years + so surely these people can wait a few more months so they can be checked for health & security first.

That is the right way to do things& after all others are missing out who have been in a Q for many ears.

Again,, I hope your much better now.

Good Morning Everyone,

And what a beautiful morning it is.
And it's Saturday - Yay!
Nothing can go wrong today - right?

Back to the topic under discussion.
As I also stated previously -
this current policy is all about appearing to
be tough. And it seems that the government is going to go
through with their policy - no matter what the
objections are going to be. What the majority of people
think - nobody knows for sure - unless a Referendum is
held and that's not likely going to happen. At least
not yet.

This is a problem that's not going to go away anytime
soon.

Has anybody been watching the animal "Migration" series
on TV? It seems that even animals seek better living
conditions elsewhere.

Poirot,
Nobody has the right to demand what may be raised & not raised speaking on the Malaysian solution.( or other threads)

Telling me what I can & can’t raise is ignorance and rudeness & attempting to bully and control my comments. People with no knowledge & I won’t be bullied.

King Hazza

I feel sure if we had the PM & Tony Abbott on this forum the one thing they would both agree with is trade and tourism is very much connected to this deal.
I have sat at the table with several Malaysian Ministers & delegates over many years. So I have an idea of what offends them & “”their concerns.

Ammonite
Regarding the deal I say give it a go . Yes its expensive but let’s give the PM a go at stopping people smugglers.
http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/australia-uses-youtube-to-deter-boatpeople/
They will be placed in a transit centre in Malaysia for up to 45 days where their refugee status will be processed by the UNHCR. They will then be relocated into local communities in Malaysia and given access to jobs, education and healthcare pending resettlement to their destination countries.
In exchange, 4,800 asylum seekers now in Malaysia and registered with the UN body will be re-settled in Australia if their refugee claims are approved.

I don’t think the average Aussie understands how important it is we give Malaysia a fair go too. If we keeping knocking this even before its tried and insulting them i can lead to another complete breakdown like we had years ago. It took ten years to fix that under the guidance of Dr Ameer Ali John Howards former advisor & the man I work with .I can assure you he would not agree Halal & live exports and the complete trade deals set ups had nothing to do with our exchange system & the new deal our PM has stuck.

Its "vital" we stop insulting these people and I cannot express that enough.

T/C

Kerryanne,

Show me where I instructed you what you may or not raise?

Talking of "bullies" - you might like to examine your own style.

At present you tend to approach posters and subjects like a driverless Sherman tank. You blast away in all directions and slide slip-shod across the terrain - and every now and then you end up in a ditch howling about the supposed ignorance and rudeness of your fellow posters.

This thread is very important one.
Please excuse me for moving it side ways,for only a little time.
Poirot IF we held a discussion on what the world could do for refugees and the worlds hungry my views would be pure Socialism.
Now, folks, please do not stand in front of KerryAnne insults they are meant for me.
Look at links in her posts to other sites, leading to praise for? me.
It has always been so, long ago exactly the same tactics and post style,.
I go, see the Iqbal Patel thread, from saint to sinner, from being crawled to then charged with non existent crimes.
It is currency, not just KA but others, I am not a paid troll.
Circumstances have forced me on the pension, years earlier than I planned.
I am not of the left, my words are mine, always.
I think in Numbers ,in votes in chances of my party winning elections.
But those chances are less than slim, we have not done as much wrong as charged, but we stick too hard to the wrong leader.
Boats will, if we let them kill my government.
Not stopping them will kill our country's unity, we are dividing our self on this issue and others.
Look first for impacts of actions or non actions do we Gamble on a ten year Abbott government to be in opposition with best policy's?

@ Piorot
<< I find it telling that most of the Muslim refugees emanate from countries where we venture, hanging onto the coat-tails of the U.S. We destroy infrastructure …yada yada yada >>

What is actually *most telling* are the stories that some people believe! The above is straight-out of Michael Moore's book of bedtime fables. Afghanistan has never had better medical services, educational opportunities or infrastructure than it does now, and any rebuilding was done at allied expense. But it is not likely that the current influx of Muslim "refugees" care much about the rebuilding of * their * country since most have lived for a decade or more in Pakistan (or Iran). Alongside millions of other Pashtun’s and Hazarra’s who’ve lived there for generations. And only thought to come to Australia when people smugglers or relations told them it was a land of milk and honey and loads of bleedin hearts.

@ Lexi,
<< It seems that even animals seek better living conditions elsewhere>>
Yes indeed. But I’ll bet when you were watching the migration the commentator did say: “ See that one with the big set of teeth and sharp claws, well, he’s actually a poor little lost lamb ”

@ Kerryanne,
<< I don’t think the average Aussie understands how important it is we give Malaysia a fair go too. If we keeping knocking this even before its tried and insulting them i can lead to another complete breakdown>>
Great point! It is telling that those who are wont to whine about “asylum seekers” being vilified are all too eager to vilify
a whole nation if it’ll means furthering their ends. And please ignore Piorot’s attempts to intimidate you.