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With the first boat arrival, the Malaysian solution gets its test of fire.

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Poirot's,

Just saw your earlier comment. No that was not directed at you. I was *explaining my position to you & looking at it myself i can see how you have taken it the wrong way. You were the only one to apologize when @ was sniveling and got me banned. However, your are a bit of a fire cracker & i respond to people as I am addressed. One thing I never do is stand by and watch somebody being persecuted or treated badly.

Lexi, you have seen that 1st hand. I will never see injustice done and be silenced for the sake of that persons supposed to be on my team. Its wrong & should be exposed as such. I think really we have all achieved something here today after all.
Guys-
There are so many things you guys can do to make the life's of refugees happier when they arrive. You can set up a thread right here and chat online before they come- work with government and greens contacts. Find out where the schools are and what stage kids are up to etc. Once they are cleared they wont come straight away.
Get to know them - before- How much nicer would that be for them are the children.
Your a very organized lady Lexi. Why dont you and some of the others here do something like that.
There are some good minds here going to waste a 4000 people could use that type of genuine care.

One thing: Somebody said- If they were T they would just come & attack- (wrong). Plenty of sleepers here. Has been for 30 years raised kids opened shops. Thats the sad part & why"we must be eternally vigilant - but with compassion.
Posted by Kerryanne, Sunday, 7 August 2011 1:40:30 AM
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We Australians are indeed weird as the book said.
And I love us as we are.
But we ask far too much from those who lead us, we expect perfection.
Forget what party, what leader, we who fall over and get up again, make mistakes and try again.
JUDGE our leaders much harsher than we even consider judging our selves.
We let every thing become a partisan issue, not humanity, not facts, we let our heart blind us.
I saw an insult aimed at folk who are concerned about Murdock Media here this morning.
Yet in part is is that, Media, all of it, talking heads giving THEIR OWN OPINION
Yes we ask too much we talk of politicians being? politicians! the very thing we put them there for and judge them on.
If we take the politics out of boat refugees my true Friend Lexi, what is left?
A politician who is of any use has to look at EVERY IMPACT of any possible action.
IF today right now,you and I formed the whole Australian government.
And we let our inner wishes rule our head, said bring them in now no detention, none.
Would we open the gates, would we serve our country's interests,are those interests first duty of a Polly.
Lexi, would we harsh has truth is, understand at the next election we would be thrown out on our ear?
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 7 August 2011 7:42:46 AM
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All over this mornings world people are looking for a new home ,some just for enough food to stay alive for another day.
Such has been the nature of life and death for century's.
A clear headed look will see as our numbers grow the death toll rises, and even a small search will find proof food shortages around the world are about to explode.
World Financial difficulty's are not getting better, understanding theft takes far too much from every dollar given to feed those in need is cutting contributions.
Those who refuse to see the over all night mare, the truth we can not forever feed them all, while they breed increasing future victims without control are of no help.
Remember,even if they saved for years , these boat people are not the poorest of the poor, they are not starving.
We ARE giving new homes to ten times their numbers, but if your hope is we can save the world by sharing endlessly our planet,our place in it, with those who increase in numbers so very fast?
My answer next.
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 7 August 2011 7:53:43 AM
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Such is the nature of humanity and some who post here I will be branded for my idea.
As a green, a lefty, by the truly blind, a fool and much more but here go,s.
I think this planet faces its biggest threat to human life it ever has, and that the United Nations is a Politically Correct waster of time/money/the air its inhabitants breath.
I think the building should be cleaned out.
Rip up its laws rules and constitutions.
Give it new leaders, why not current world Prime Ministers and President's, first task?
Remove all dictators by force if needed.
Have what we have in local government,administrators in place until stability returns.
World wide, every country birth control ,to stop the growth.
Feed the hungry keep some work protected in some country's to give every one a life.
No intention of dropping borders haveing one world government but it will take much more than love, something better than hate ,to fix this planet.
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 7 August 2011 8:05:40 AM
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KerryAnne I speak only because some one must to you.
Poirot, not because she sided with me, she often opposes me, is upset with you.
Those comments and ones much like them have been leveled at you by very many, now and in the past.
KerryAnne near equal in numbers to the ones you launch at others.
It need not be so, you can change, but know this, just as my words show me as I am, the good the bad the ugly.
Yours show every detail about you.
Look back your self,at your growing friendship with Col the work you are putting in to rebuild a sand castle you constantly kick over.
I am not being nasty,I am a fool, I am trying yet again, not to talk to you but to help you.
Words spoken can drift away in the wind, written they exist forever.
Your future here is up to you,not me, all I ask is you understand the snide remarks followed by the verbal kiss on the cheek is wearing some.
I wish you well but no need to respond.
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 7 August 2011 8:19:53 AM
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Dear Kerryanne,

A few clarifications:

1) The Prime Minister has made a tough decision and
she's prepared to take the responsibility for
the consequences of that decision to stop the
people smuggling trade into this country. Mr Joe
Hockey seems to have overlooked the fact that his
party kept children behind barbed wire for years
when he criticises the current government's attempt
to stop the boats. Whether this government succeeds
in their attempt - we shall have to wait and see.
At least this is a government that is attempting to
get things done. I wonder whether the Opposition will
support the Aged Care program that is about to be
announced - even the harshest critics have given it
the tick of approval - will Mr Abbott - when he returns
from Switzerland? Somehow I very much doubt it. It would
be a pleasant surprise if he did.

2) Thank You for your suggestions to me about how I
can help refugees. My family came to this country as
refugees from Norther Europe (I was born here), so I'M
very familiar with the problems that refugees face and what
they require. BTW: I do my job for a variety of people - in my
professional capacity on a daily basis.

Cheers.
Posted by Lexi, Sunday, 7 August 2011 11:10:17 AM
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