Lexi,

Well it's all very well to criticise the parents of these children, yet any government who would compound a child's misery is not one that represents any valid moral code.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-08-05/un-in-malaysia-children-plea/2825480

"Monitored"....just how closely do you really think a Malaysian detention centre can be monitored? A dose of reality is required here. Australians aren't even cognizant of conditions and practices in our own detention centres (nor would most of them care).

Here's a little info on practices in Malaysia:

http://thejakartaglobe.com/opinion/refugee-eal-ignores-malaysias-record/454776

Kerryanne,

Children are children - your viewpoint appears to be racially skewed.

I'm against the live export of livestock and children - what about you?

Btw, for someone who declares they owe allegiance to no particular party, You're pretty handy with a boot into the ALP in most of your posts.

Dear Poirot,

Thanks for the links.
I guess I was trying to see some possible positive
aspects of this miserable situation. Because it's
something that we're stuck with for a while at least.
The government can't win in any situation with this
complex problem. They're accused of being soft -
now they're accused of being tough. And nobody is
coming up with a better solution. What does Australia
want? Perhaps people should have a vote on the matter?
I'm sure it will be an election issue.

You do realize that the message this policy DOES send to asylum seekers heading for Australia is "I only need to stop at MALAYSIA and apply for Asylum there- and the rest of my trip is funded by the Australia Government with guaranteed visa due to a loophole!"

You know, I'm actually quite certain that Labor is actually trying to dramatically increase our intake, but in a way that pretends they're "getting tough".
Also note that few people who preferred the Pacific Solution would not be so quick to criticize because doing so might start making it appear that they are criticizing an attempt to put up a 'tough' and 'deterring' immigration policy- and may start the wrong kind of campaign to reduce our restriction policy.

Either way, while we are orchestrating and funding hundreds of plane flights between our countries and having to accomodate a drastically increased intake (and liability that we will get religious nutters, as the refugees were granted status by Malaysian government standards for acceptable refugees rather than ours); we could have saved ourselves the entire mess by simply making an ad campaign and aired it in the countries where our intakes are coming from, describing Australia openly supports and embraces gay couples, Denmark's cartoons, and is going to ban the burqa- and watch the intake suddenly stop.
The fact that all three of the above aren't actually true won't matter.

King Hazza,
Perfect ‘’ Pls toss your head in for PM & for that you’re on my favorites list.

Dear Lexi

Sorry, I really don't know what you're on about.*
I meant from the moment I joined the little alp buddy has attacked broken rules, shouted, printed private names not even *on the site to defend themselves inappropriate unprofessional uncouth comments bullied and attempted @#* dominated .
As soon as Col Rouge gentleman gives the alp bully a bit back- you my friend ask for civil *behavior. I for one would like a happy topic agree 100%



Dear Poirot,

Its good your against live animal exports because as our Australian Animals we* have a duty of care.

Big difference between putting someone on a plane( for a couple of hours to go into accommodation )– or to be tortured & bashed slowly to death with chains and stabbed 33 times isn’t there.

Have you ever met some of these 14 & 16 year olds. Who do you reckon pays the fair of *some at least.

Surely if they come all that way in a boat with the others-

They can travelled back with the same they came with first class a few more hours. Where they will be fed accommodated & we silly bunnies will pay their fair back a few months later.

*You're pretty handy with a boot into the ALP in most of your posts*.

Heres the funny thing- I was backing ALP when I came- here for sake of the bill for live export tbo.

Since they are doing a back flip- + especially seeing that alp persons posts here its turned me around.

Which is why I said hes Tony Abbotts best advocate:)

You have to addmitt thats kind of funny.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/breaking-news/malaysia-bound-deportees-on-hunger-strike/story-fn3dxity-1226109508720
It has started.
Look if you will at the fact telephone links exist between refugees and Australian groups.
What out comes do Australian Conservative voters want
What out comes do Labor voters want?
Can I with confidence say most want an end to boats arriving here.
If true, could I also say in this debate Nehru only lets us send them to another rented Island.
That things have changed, Nehru may not stop the boats this time.
I want to highlight an honestly held view.
It will win me no Friends here.
I think Abbott wants this to fail.
I think SOME too many , of his supporters want it to fail.
In doing so, it is my view,they work with support by inaction, the very truly radical left, who in turn use these refugees for their own self interests.
Note I do not include the greens as a group in that radical call, but many of them live in that camp.
An are wrestle is under way, the world is about to look hard for answers to refugees , this maybe is it.
Be aware, in the refugee supporters camp, some care nothing for refugees every thing for trouble it lets them start.
Strange bed fellows Mr Abbott.

Poirot, my Friend you are better than that, far better.
Lexi is under terrorist attack, because she is often in support of things I say.
It is true, we all, often post without reading other posts.
Even refuse to read some peoples posts.
I read every one from my last one.
You should read those around you.
You, fellow posters I invite you all, to act fairly here, read those nasty, hurtful deliberately Sharp ones aimed at Lexi.
An arm over Cols shoulder can be seen then nasty inferences about me, bitter spiteful nasty, .
Reference is then made to posting under other names, by some one noted for it.
A posters former name is used in an unattractive bitter way.
I BEG! that we find a way around the insults, that we calm down just a little,all of us.
But most importantly, we understand every one has the right, OR DO THEY? to an opinion that is different in a FORUM KNOWN OLO ON LINE OPINION.
Without the spite hate smart A$%ed need to be considered a wit by true twits.
Poirot this I think is true, you as is true of Lexi do not like my posts often but you would never knowingly let An other use you, and it is taking place.
We,almost all of us,are better than that.