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The Succession of Western Australia

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Under what circumstances would you support WA secession?

Good question Ludwig. Thanks for asking.

Well Luddie old mate, a sustainable society would have to be central to the plan. If we in the west were to suddenly acquire a very green government, that was totally oriented towards achieving sustainability quickly, with a stable population as a fundamental part of it…. and if the other states and the federal govt refused to do the same and insisted that rapid population growth continued in WA, then I’d be pushing very hard for secession.

Wow, good stuff. I agree completely Lud, you old ratbag greenie!

Then, after Westralia has demonstrated that it can indeed have a sustainable society with a high level of affluence and a steady state of repair of our damaged natural environment… and after Eastralia has agreed that it is the way to go, we should unsecede!

We could also then recommence population growth, at a low rate, if it can be accommodated within the sustainability paradigm.

Very good Luddie. But um, you might want to seek a bit of help about this talking-to-yourself business. It’s really creepy!
Posted by Ludwig, Saturday, 30 July 2011 5:36:46 PM
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Yabby,
Thankyou Yes , I am busy working on that right now thanks for your interest.Got rid of the last one he burnt the toast. Yup will be plenty available too in the next few years after that little stunt they tried to pull. Cat got your tongue has it.
If they thought they would get away black mailing the Prime Minister with shooting cattle they were mistaken.
Then they say they want to run their own states ``priceless``.
What’s the food like in goal btw
I should at least return the same interest.
Posted by Kerryanne, Sunday, 31 July 2011 7:36:54 AM
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Ludwig, as a botanist you would have a copy of Darwin's Origin
of Species on your shelf somewhere. Go back and read it again :)

Humans will keep breeding and stretching things to the limit,
until calamity happens on a mass scale, the whole lot crashes
with a thud from ecosystems totally out of balance etc.

I have long ago accepted that fact and nothing that I have
seen from human history convinces me that humans evolved to be
above nature. So be it, its not worth having sleepless nights
over, best you just enjoy the moment and your holiday!
Posted by Yabby, Sunday, 31 July 2011 10:29:44 AM
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Hwaaaaw!

How depressing.

( :>(
Posted by Ludwig, Sunday, 31 July 2011 11:00:26 AM
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Yabby:>> LOL Sonofgloin, so you judge the economy by your Christmas tree :)Take a look at the import figures to see what we import and from where in $ terms. You might get a shock, rather then your Xmas
tree method.<<

Yabby I did not have to look, I have the 2010 Import figures rolling in my head, in $ terms as you say, in millions. Top 5 importers:

China
39,781
United States
19,278
Japan
16,689
Singapore
11,178
Thailand
11,627

China top import by segment:
1.Food
2.Eletrical
3.Textile
4.Footwear

USA top import by segment:
1.Materials handling equipment
2.Medicinal equipment
3.Excavating equipment
4.Telecommunications equipment

I the past seven years, exports to China have more than doubled, while imports have risen by 90%. We are not getting richer from what we grow and dig because we import everything we need to survive daily, and that is because of the FREE TRADE agreements that have torn down our protection tariffs. I know you do not see that Yabby, but I know you do not see many things, I forgive your ignorance knowing that it is fostered by the short term monetary gain that this one sided trade arrangement has brought to a few, such as yourself.

Yabby let me tell you what a two speed economy really is in practical terms. When the largest returning segment of the economy employs substantially less people than the smaller returning portion of the economy you have disproportionate wealth distribution and a two speed economy.

Merry Xmas in July Yabby.
Posted by sonofgloin, Sunday, 31 July 2011 11:33:06 AM
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On the front page of the Weekend West I see an article titled ‘$190 000 forklift drivers’.

http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/news/9942034/pilbara-workers-reject-190-000-pay-offer/

< Forklift drivers, crane operators and other waterside workers in the North West have gone on strike, rejecting proposed salary packages of more than $190 000 a year.>

<They claim the pay offer does not adequately cover the cost of living in Karratha.>

Wow! I’d kill for a package like that, as I’m sure most people outside of the mining industry and associated businesses would.

Now, THAT is a two-speed economy if ever there was one!
Posted by Ludwig, Sunday, 31 July 2011 12:09:38 PM
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