Haaa hahaha

Love your humour Hasbeen ( :>)

Ooow...... I hope it was humour, and not a serious critique of poor old South Oz!? ( :>|

Noisy Scrub Bird

Hello NSB

Yes I meant minerals and my point was WA and NT have the average mentality of a 10 year old child collectively. Its a pity because it could be something special. They rely on one market and one market is never sustainable .
First lesson you learn in the business world. Many think by threatening and bullying they will get their way. The last good example was their Minister went to Indonesia. He just went:
Tried to bully his way in and no thought given to their culture or policy. So there he sat i his hotel room because NOBODY would take him anywhere- and sat and sat. He did us no favors representing Australia. Nobody likes bullies especially them. Its just their way and they think the ruder they are the more attention they should get.


I am sure there are some lovely people but I refer to their business dealings.
Have a nice evening NSB

<< What improvements we have in the bush, were hard fought for, not by pleading, but by threats and political action. >>

Yabby, do you think this is really any different in WA to the rest of the country?

The same sort of thing happens everywhere. Crikey, back home in north Queensland there has always been a loud voice of discontent about the north being disadvantaged while the southeast corner of Queensland gets looked after to a much better extent.

After nearly thirty years of experiencing this, I’ve come to the conclusion that it is unfounded, or at least not significantly disparate in the north.

<< The Brookton Highway was once so bad, that they had to slow traffic to stop accidents >>

Maybe so but it is great now. Roads are pretty damn good in WA. I’ve just done a trip through the central wheatbelt. There are top quality sealed roads everywhere, with such light traffic use that you might not see a dozen cars in a day. Lots of minor roads are sealed and the unsealed ones appear to all be well maintained. And I remember it being the same in the late seventies when I was botanising throughout the wheatbelt and southwest corner.

I can remember the terrible state of the Bruce and Flinders Highways in north Queensland, not so long ago.

<< there is no reason why WA rural residents should be treated as second class citizens >>

I wonder if they are, or whether it just a matter of some peoples’ perception?

Again, I’ve heard just the same thing in Queensland, about graziers in the Brigalow Belt being second class citizens compared to those in the southeast corner or anywhere on the coast.

There might be some truth to it, but I doubt very much that it is worse in WA. And anyway, in WA, Qld and elsewhere, any differences between rural and urban quality of life are state government issues, or at least to a large extent.

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<< smaller democracies invariably function better then large ones >>

This sounds logical, but there are too many factors involved to say that it would be the case for WA. Afterall, the new country, Westralia as I have dubbed it, would still be very large, much larger than New Zealand….and does that country have significantly better democracy than Australia?

As far as state governments go, do the smaller states have better democracies or governments than the larger ones? I don’t think so.

<< Once decision making resides in Canberra, WA gets lost in the political fog >>

The same thing happens at state level. There must be plenty of complaints from all over WA once you get out of the southwest corner, or once you get away from the Joondalup to Dunsborough growth strip, or once you get behind the Darling Range and into the wheatbelt, let alone once you get into the Pilbara and Kimberleys… about decision-makers in Perth forgetting those in the bush.

The secession of WA will do nothing to relieve this. Cutting Canberra out of the picture won't help much. A lot of people in country areas will probably just refocus their anger on decision-makers in distant Perth.

Once again, I’ve heard plenty of this sort of thing in north Queensland.

<< …it would be foolish not to use the threat of secession as a bargaining tool, to make sure
that we get a fair deal >>

Well… perhaps all is fair in the rough world of politics and economics. But if it came to the crunch Yabby, would you really vote for secession, or if you could make the decision unilaterally, would you really go for it?

Ludwig, you can't really judge road traffic in the wheatbelt right now.
Everything has stopped, due to last years drought. Now its
raining again, farmers will reopen their cheque books when they know
that they will get a crop and banks let them spend again. Right
now you simply don't have all those trucks and freight on the road,
the place is like in hybernation.

The road to Hyden, a major tourist attraction, used to be an utter
disgrace. I'm not sure if they have finally done it up now. One
car width bitumin, with high shoulders. When Japanese tourists met
with 50 tonne road trains, oh what a mess. No Ludwig, we don't
have facilities as good as elsewhere.

I would vote for a system where WA gets to make its own economic
decisions, without input from Canberra. So yup, I would vote for
secession tomorrow, if given a chance. I'm sick of Brown, Xenephon,
Wilkie and Co trying to interfere with what we do here. They don't
know what is best for us, so why should they have a say.

Much of the ES economy is now a ponzi scheme of trading houses and
administering one another. Never mind the real world. Even
our PM seemingly is not sure as to what we do here, given her
carbon tax claims.

There are no wise men from the East, just politicians feathering
their own political nests. At least if their nest is in WA,
they will put the State's interests first, not last in the queue.

Yabby:>> Now that you don't have us as your slave customers anymore, how well are you doing on global markets? We are still exporting btw.<<

Yabby the lines from the "good old WA boys" dirge:

Way over west we gave water for cotton
Where corporate greed is not forgotten
Dig away, dig away, dig away Sandgroper land.

Cmon Yabby you have the rationality of a Boer farmer from the old veldt, “I’m all right Johannes” stuff the kaffa. Further that ridiculous statement of praise for the free trade agreements that have seen most manufacturing leave the first world for the second and third is treasonous given it further enpowers the rich over us and the poor sod who went from agri slave to factory slave in the the second and third worlds. As I have said before Yabby, all your statements have a big dose of “no bread, let them eat cake” about them.

Good to talk to you Yabby, it’s been a while.