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I warned you many times but you just laughed

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Rehctub, you are only partly right.
Worldwide we are up against very low growth or zero growth.
It is this worldwide low growth that is causing the problem for business.
Of course our government is doing its best to make things worse but
you must excuse them because Swan expects growth to cover our deficit.
They are unaware of the true situation in which we find ourselves.
But then so does every other country. Even the US and Europe are still
talking growth and are wondering why they can't crank it up above
1% or 2%.

I read an article on this recently and the writer assigns a direct
connection to Energy Return on Energy Invested (ERoEI).
He asserts that now that ERoEI has fallen to 20:1 we are now spending
on obtaining energy what we used to spend on growth and interest
payments.

We will need realign our expectations to match our resources.
Posted by Bazz, Monday, 25 July 2011 8:53:35 AM
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Rehctub it is not only big business.

Smaller and small business is also suffering

It is simple

Remove a sense of certainty, by dumb-arsed socialist economics, including the uncertain impacts of a ideological “Carbon Tax” which can muster less than 20% support across the nation (and that 20% is largely employed in safe “government” jobs) and two things happen

1 people are forced to divert more of their income into providing for utilities and government rates and charges etc. which they know are going through the roof but which they cannot avoid paying

2 people start to get fearful for their future so they stop doing things which are “discretionary”. Essentially, people stop spending and start saving more, incase they lose their jobs.

All that saving results in

grave economic slow down I see another chain of clothing stores have announced 50 shop closures becasue of lack of sales..... that menas spaces in shopping malls... reduced rental income... slow down in bunisness investment... no building works... etc ... etc...

in short, business closedowns due to lack of market demand and all because of this stupid, unpopular, anti-elecorate government

That in turn means fewer hairdressers, restaurant staff, deli workers shop assistants, including the family butcher staff etc employed.

This government is abysmal because it just does not get or see it or understand how and why a mixed economy functions. It only understands how to mess up and leave the conservative side of politics to clean up and produce an economic recovery after them
Remember a Carbon Tax will increase your costs of utilities….

And we all know… that cost increase will be more than the amount you get back as tax relief or handouts… and lets face it… there is never any “dignity” in government handouts…. It merely entrenches their hand deeper you your pocket for no beneficial effect

Bring on the Next General Election - double dissolution and clean out the greens and the swill
Posted by Col Rouge, Monday, 25 July 2011 12:14:02 PM
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Assuming that Col Rouge is misinformed rather than deliberately lying, he should be made aware that this morning's poll results indicate a 6% increase in support for the Carbon Tax since the Government released details last week:

><The poll published in today's Australian newspaper suggests 36 per cent of voters now support the carbon tax.

Opposition to the tax has fallen from 59 per cent to 53 per cent since the beginning of the Federal Government's advertising campaign.

The poll was conducted last weekend and the Australian says it shows the first rise in support for the tax in almost three months.><

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-07-25/poll-shows-rising-support-for-carbon-tax/2808486
Posted by morganzola, Monday, 25 July 2011 1:19:56 PM
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morganzola "Assuming that Col Rouge is misinformed rather than deliberately lying.....

The poll published in today's Australian newspaper suggests 36 per cent of voters now support the carbon tax."

no, moronzola, I do not do as the Environazis do and "deliberatly lie"

I have no investment in fraud to benefit from

Recently the idea of having a Carbon Tax did have support of only 19% of the electorate....

that you have trawled up another figure to suggest different means nothing, other than you will use anything to support an immoral tax and anything to find some more idiots to support your asinine view.

Like I said, if Gizzards was honest ("honest socialist" being an oxymoron - example "Tax cuts are L.A.W.), she would have tested support for a Carbon tax by taking it firsts to the electorate instead of

Lying through her teeth at the last election and pretending she has now been elected to run roughshod over the will of the people who actually produce the wealth her government wants to tax.

It will never cease to amaze me that anyone can cast a sincere vote for socialists...

the sooner they and their Watermelon Green imbicilicle mates are evicted the better
Posted by Col Rouge, Monday, 25 July 2011 1:41:59 PM
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@ Col Rouge:

Thanks for that. Any opportunity to publish the actual facts is welcome, since you seem incapable of doing so.

"imbicilicle" - now that made laugh out loud. Thanks for that, too :)
Posted by morganzola, Monday, 25 July 2011 1:50:55 PM
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morganzola,
the photo in the link says a thousand words. Just look at the chaps' expression, they look really impressed by the PM.
A survey by the Australian ? Was that survey conducted in the ABC coffee lounge ?
Posted by individual, Monday, 25 July 2011 2:04:09 PM
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