...Under the law in NSW, police have the right under certain circumstance to ask for identification. One of the applicable circumstances, as in the case of this event; (section 171-3 of the Road Transport (general act) 2005 of NSW). If you are a car driver OR passenger, Police have the legal right to ask for ID.
It appears to me, from viewing the show in question on TV, The women presented her drivers licence on request, for that purpose.

...Where the confusion arose was the Officers request for her to remove the burka to enable the legally correct request to be satisfactorily completed (which obviously it was not, at the point the woman refused to remove the veil).

...The fault was with the Police as I see it. I concluded from the documentary that the Officer involved with this event was an exceptionally calm Policeman, behaving with exceptional courtesy under the provocative behaviour of the women in question. Most Police would take the option of the next step, one would expect; off to the police station to complete the legal request to prove identification.

I have seen comment previously, so I cannot affirm its correctness,
that the Koran states that it is a lessor sin to lie to or cheat a
non moslem.

Put this together with it is only islamic driven terrorists who load
children up with bombs and send them to kill others, including
moslems, then you have a totally different thought process that seems
to have been built in from birth.

Put this together with the very high level of cousin marriage over
generations and it might appear that the behaviour outside the court
can be understood.

I believe that the most rabib of Irish terrorists would have been
horrified at the thought of loading up a child with a bomb.

Yuyutsu; Why would the woman be ashamed if she revealed her face ?
What could be different, I have seen hundreds of thousands of women's
faces and very few I thought should be covered up.

On this current matter that is the crux of the matter isn't it ?
She is told that she must never be seen. She must hide away.
Another question, why is this imposition put only onto women ?
Why are men allowed to dress normally ?
Why are women prevented from driving in KSA ?
Why is education not allowed for women ?
Is it because they might find out what fools they have been ?

Is it just a stunt to conrol women ? What poor souls they must be.

"Yuyutsu; Why would the woman be ashamed if she revealed her face ?"

Because she had a principle and she broke it.

She bowed down to power.

If you make a vow, you keep it till your last breath, you don't break it because you fear trouble from some policeman.

"Another question, why is this imposition put only onto women ?"

I support no external imposition - by men, by women or by the state. In this case, at least as far as we are told, there was only one imposition - by the policeman on behalf of the state.

csteele

I heard about the same case as you did. As far as I understand law in Australia, anyone is required to provide visual proof of identity in such procedures as declaring an affidavit or while driving a vehicle which does not comply with basic safety standards such as obscured P-plates or other infringement.

On one side we have a woman who does not want to comply with an police officer's request - for whatever reason. She claims threatening coercion. Writes a complaint but, again her identity cannot be confirmed because, again she will not reveal her face.

The signature on the Driver's Licence was completely different to the one on the driver's license held by the woman driver.

I want to say that in this instance that it is religion that is an ass but I do not want instigate islamophobic rant - because when we really analyse the situation it is the way religion is used - ANY RELIGION - to limit, hobble, curtail, restrain, prevent women from being people. That many women may be comply with their own subjugation is another sorry result of the universal stupidity towards women's appearance.

Expect to hear from the usual suspects soon - the ones who only post on threads about women.

In cases such as this , inevitably people who do not want Muslims in Australia will have a field day . As one contributor says , until the reasons of the appeal court have been examined , let us all defer reaching a conclusion about the wearing or removal of burquas / similar Muslim facial covering and how to deal with these in the criminal law .

Presumably , Muslim women , when obtaining a driver 's licence , must be photographed without facial covering , otherwise the photograph would be useless . Are they photographed by women only ? Would it not be possible for a driver or other woman wearing a facial covering , who is being apprehended by police , to unveil only to a woman police officer ?

Can they do the driving test , veiled ? If so , how does the examiner know that the applicant is not already a qualified driver doing the test on behalf of an unqualified driver , seeking to obtain a licence ?

If there is no woman police officer in the car which stops the Muslim woman , the veiled driver can be told that she must stop at the scene until a policewoman can attend the scene to view the driver 's face . This , of course , will be inconvenient both to the woman driver and the police .

In future , when a veiled woman wishes to obtain a driver 's licence , she should be told that a condition of obtaining one will be that she must unveil , if apprehended on suspicion of committing a traffic offence .If necessary , the traffic legislation should be amended to enable this condition to be imposed .