Oh, Arjay. You're so gullible.

>>China has given an ultimatium to the USA to leave Pakistan alone<<

The only known fact is that they have asked that "the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Pakistan must be respected".

All the rest, including the "ultimatum", is pure invention. "Sources say..." is the phrase employed by the Tarpleys of this world when they want to pass off their mischief as "news".

They all say the same thing - "According to Pakistani diplomatic sources cited by the Times of India, China has 'warned in unequivocal terms that any attack on Pakistan would be construed as an attack on China.'"

Well, here's the Times of India web page, opened at "Pakistan"

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/pakistan/articlelist/30359534.cms

If you are still sceptical, type "ultimatum" into the search box.

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That should help explain why you keep believing weird stuff.

"The washington planned attack on Pakistan will be interpreted as an act of aggression toward Beijing." I slang terms Pericles it is called back off.

I see another interesting development happening on sites like www.veteranstoday/ They are in denial about nano-thermite being used and say that nukes were used to bring down the towers and Building 7.They are trying to put all the blame on Israel when clearly the US Military and Govt had to have some involvement.Prof Steven Jones a physcist told me,at that time, only the USA had the technology to produce nano-thermite.So it seems that Israel and the ordinary Jews are being set up to take the whole wrap.

You have to realise Pericles and Yabby that these psychopaths have many scenarios on the table and pick the one to suit their occasion.Who are they? Follow the money trail.They don't have all these think tanks operating for nothing.

This is where your world differs from (almost) everyone else's, Arjay.

>>You have to realise Pericles and Yabby that these psychopaths have many scenarios on the table and pick the one to suit their occasion<<

Although I did have the good fortune to meet a conspiracy-theorist, in the flesh, only the other day. It was fascinating to witness first-hand the completely circular arguments employed.

Bin Laden has been dead for years, apparently, and the only reason his death was announced recently was because Obama wanted a boost to his popularity rating. The proof for this was, of course, that governments lie to us all the time (Iraq WMD, 9/11 etc.), so why wouldn't they lie about this? And (you're ahead of me, I can tell) the proof that they lied about bin Laden's death was that it would boost Obama's popularity... QED!

No amount of questioning could break the circle: "they" lie because "they" can, and "they" can because "they" lie. Everything is neatly explained in this way.

By the way, on what basis do you disbelieve the "mini-nuke" theory, Arjay, as opposed to the nano-thermite theory?

They both sound equally credible to me.

There is no way they would have used nukes on 911.There would have been flashes and much louder explosions.This denial of nano thermite is been done to confuse the issue,so that even the scientific evidence of 911 gets mixed up in a muddle of confusion.

Nano thermite acts as an explosive as well as an incendiary device.This is why we see molten metal pouring from the towers and steel girders cut as if an oxy torch did the work.Prof Jones and others ar not ruling out other devices but nukes are out of the question.The lack of radiation is another factor not supporting the theory of nukes.

I do see however intention amongst the military to blame Israel totally,thus some of the elites get a scapegoat to demonise.Israel was involved but it had to have collaboration within the Military and Political sphere of the USA to achieve this.The ordinary Isareli citizens would have had no idea what was happening and they would not have approved.

Isn't funny, that all the worlds people are thinking of war.

LEA