Arjay, I don't think you'd even notice your own contradictions, if
you fell over them yourself.

Gul is a Taliban supporter, you know, those people who tread on
every human right imaginable, ban little girls from going to school,
ban music, videos, pictures and insist that people wear beards.

You then have the gal to mention US human rights.

Are you Pakistani by any chance?

Yabby neither you or Belly have argued any of the points raised.In the face of facts and logic,you are reduced to personal abuse and ad hominem.

Arjay, its interesting to note that you defend nutcase extremist
Islamists, but you are concerned about what Bush's grandfather
allegedly did.

Frankly I am much more concerned with the present, to even bother
about what peoples grandfathers occupied their time with.

I am the first to critisize Bush, the man was a dummy. But
I also see situations for what they are and your Pakistani
hero is hardly a man to look up to.

The militant islamist ideology is not just the figment of some
imagination. Its very real and some people actually do believe
this stuff.

Kohmehni, the nutter who headed Iran, made it quite clear that in
his opinion Islam was a violent religion. Sadly some of these
nutters, who are tied up with both the Pakistani intelligence service
and the army, are hugely damaging to more secular types in Pakistan.
But the fact that they now are increasing their nuclear weapons to
100 should be a concern to anyone who can think at least a little
objectively.

Yes, America tightened security. They had to, as did most countries
in the West, to deal with militant Islam. That is the price we pay
for having religous fruitcakes on the planet. Interestingly its
paid off for them, for today Islamists spend most of their time
killing other Muslims, rather then people in the West. That will not
go anywhere to advance their cause

The world yabby is a strange place.
Some can say what they want, and only be considered eccentric.
Others doing it?
I intend to wander out on the thin ice of my opinion, and my right to it.
It is my view the Muslim world, the good and bad off it, runs on lies.
No not con men, just lies are a habit, in my view.
We, every human group, have a few who are seemingly not in charge of their thought processes.
While Arjay may not be from Pakistan, if I was to ask him one question it would be a repeated one, what part of the world are you from my Friend?
The views seen in post after post are not supported by truth.
Ten thousand Ajay's may get some who fit another category to believe him, true concerns can be produced against any country.
But in the end,compare the reality of the west with the true one of middle eastern country's.
And we you yabby and I, can chuckle about the Author of such tripe saying we duck and dive reality.

Yabby.Even if you believe the official 911 BS,the actions of George Bush,Cheney etc are criminal.There were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.Every invasion is about oil,resources and power plays.Look at the suspicious so called death of Bin Laden.It was a big cover up.

The real agenda behing this is to limit the power of China.China will not let Western Banking Cartels to create their money.These Cartels have assumed ownership of our increases in GDP by having the ability to create it from nothing in their computers.They control our finance system and our Govts.The more growth we have ,the more debt we incur.This is why since the selling of the Commonwealth bank and 4 state banks,we have to sell off public assets to pay from debt.

When the Commonwealth was sold off Howard had to bring in the GST to cover the increased Debt.Sure the Commonwealth was creating debt money from mortgages,but it reduced our taxes.We were able to create a % of our infrastructure debt free.30% of our mortgage money comes from OS Central Banks.

So this whole game is about the New World Order which they don't mention much these days.Just google New World Order.Even Obama mentioned it in his early rise to power.Their plan for a World Govt is still on the agenda and they are pushing for war with China.The plan is to bring on a total economic collapse and expand their wars of imperialism.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_World_Order_(conspiracy_theory)

There you go, Arjay. The article discusses how some politicians
have used the term and why, to a list of the many conspiracy
theories of different kinds of "new world order"

The Jews will rule the world.
The antichrist will rule the world.
The freemasons want to rule the world.
The aliens which have come from outerspace,want to rule the world.
The list goes on.

Your choice of conspiracy theory is nearly as great as your
choice of religions in which to believe.