Lord give me patience - but hurry!

"Shadow Minister" writes (18 May 2011 5:13:28 AM) "Only at or above $40/t does anything other than coal based generation become commercially viable... ". So we need a higher price on carbon.

My suggestion was for $50 a tonne, under the slogan "Great Big Carbon Tax Cuts for Everyone": http://blog.tomw.net.au/2011/03/great-big-carbon-tax-cuts-for-everyone.html

However, it seems more likely that a lower price will be introduced and then gradually increased. Whatever technique is used, scientists say carbon emissions need to be reduced and economists say a price is the most efficient way to do that. This will not be a pleasant process, but it is necessary and the longer we delay, the harder it will be.

Some years ago there was a warning about a hole in the Ozone layer, found to be due to gas from air conditioners and tins of hairspray. Makers of the chemicals responsible scoffed at this idea and warned of the economic consequences of curbing their production. But global action was taken, the emissions reduced, the hole is under control and industry survived: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozone_depletion

For my part, I am teaching how IT can be used to reduce carbon emissions, in a relatively painless way, which can increase profits: http://www.tomw.net.au/green/

latest thought is
we each get a base allowance..[of TRADEABLE carbon credits]
let those who want credits..BUY them from the least users of co2

so take the big numbers
figure out a medium..[fair share for all]
place it in the carbon credit bank
give each an EQUAL share
and use your credits
to pay your tax...

[if YOU USE/abuse more

ITS YOU WHO MUST PAY MORE
by bying them from the least abusive

it must be seen to be fair
use more
pay more

we can use our carbon credits
to support our jobs...if we got the credit

also no more cash grants for gren stuff
JUST LOANS..that must be repaid in full
[intrst free for 7 years..
then @ 10%..per year]

USERS are revenue neutral
ABUSERS..must pay more..for the more they polute

Lexi I can not help there but consider this.
One day the lie that is coalitions carbon change policy's will be in many books in your Library.
Shadow Ministers out pourings,and many others will live in the humor sections.
MY FEARS, the ones that I think concern you about me,are people buy this junk.
Labor must look to its past,1975 was not unlike today, a party failing its self and media driven by big money interests, intent on removing them.
Consider the 74% who wanted climate change, note Gillard spoke against it, we dropped it,many will not except climate change tax.
ETS will come, it may be Turnbull who introduces it.
LIE? yes look at this, the intention of putting a price on carbon, NEVER WAS just to cut this country or the worlds emissions in the short term.
Abbott knows that.
It was to price fossil fuels out of the market, to drive new fuel new power cleaner greener, an event that will not happen until it costs less than to continue polluting.
Lie,s miss truth self interest, and bought and paid for protection of fossil fuel owners has purchased conservative politics in this country.Hope that helps while you wait for God.

Dear Belly,

Here's another website that you and others may enjoy:

http://newmatilda.com/2011/05/13/devils-details-and-there-were-none

Rabbiting on about the costs of living presures are really just a political "code for greed." But what can we expect from a Party whose ideology of greed, leaves no room for social equity, compassion, or the idea of an egalitarian society.

Read the article - it sums it all up very well.

Yes good stuff Lexi, I took your advice some time ago and went to this site.
Get the Emails but can not contribute, did not handle the computer generated bit that keeps idiots out,use that one SM.
My eyes are not up to it some days.
Watch question time Labor very much on the front foot today.
Watch this prediction and see it come true, I promise.
The Federal coalition within 3 years, will adopt a cost on carbon policy.
As silly as it sounds,this once great party has conceded its policy's to follow the American Republicans, and the worst of them.
Turnbull is a shoe in,as it becomes clear Abbott is as dangerous as we know, they will dump him and his policy's.