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ALP The Future

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Most posters know politics is a big part of my life.
Most will have guessed it often gets me in trouble,with my party.
A fact is I may well have lost the respect of Bill Shorten, he never will have to think that about me.
He is my party's future.
I just can not dig a hole and bury my pain,forget the dreadful events of the Crean/Latham/Gillard years.
NSW Labor, only some one unconcerned for my party can forgive it.
The very Engine of this country's ALP bought and sold by self interest greed and contempt.
Contempt for the party its members its foot soldiers its heart and sole.
Never hide your party's faults, demand better.
But know within the Liberal party, it truly owns the Nationals,a donkey trained to carry and fetch for its boss the same sins exist.
Turnbull has grown,IF his party wishes to return to Liberalism, move away from tea party lunacy, he alone is the man.
My country needs both sides to grow, Liberals no less than Labor.
Gillard is gone,she will have her victory's but never win back some voters.
She is backed by Crean and both are part of the Latham wreckage.
Another great and good man Tony Windsor, no ones property, could with the chance lead us as Prime Minister he would be much loved he is fair dinkum a good member.
Shorten next.
Posted by Belly, Friday, 20 May 2011 7:24:40 AM
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Need to tell how I met Bill Shorten, I can say some things I could not while a working union official.
I am an ex, in my branch nothing is so remote from living that an ex, even life members.
In 1961 I first bought my union ticket,in the AWU not Iron workers.
I have been a servant of that union, not the Iron workers ever since.
Amalgamation campaign took place I went for the side that won, early, my AWU had been paying men who never left the local pub for years.
Bill Shorten Bill Ludwig and now Paul Howe's saved and rebuilt the AWU, it proudly is the sum of EVERY union it once was.
Shorten is brave wise and understands this country, he is tasked with rebuilding, and doing just as good a job as he did with my union, with my party.
Branches must not put best mates who are in fact drongos into Parliament.
Ex union officials who did badly in the movement should not be dumped into seats men of merit should have.
The ALP factionalism is not destructive,it saves the party from true twits being elected.
IF I know anything it is this Shorten is the man Rudd promised to be.
Rudd
Posted by Belly, Friday, 20 May 2011 7:40:55 AM
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Kevin Rudd Kevin 07 is a nice bloke,his sins largely hidden from us during his time in office by Medea that often fails to inform.
He was strong in the Goss government,very strong but controlling too controlling.
He,behind the scenes was not controlling his own actions, not trusting not leading and not including his best talent.

A good leader delegates,and a good one risk takes too,he would have walked in a double dissolution election and introduced an ETS but let fear stop him.
Still a nice bloke, betrayed in my view by his closest aids, but he dropped the right Bowyer in the game by letting his anger drive a betrayal of the party mid election.
He can not come back from that, but can advance this country in his current roll.
Kevin should sit quietly and review his actions did he come to Labor for self interest or to make a difference?
Posted by Belly, Friday, 20 May 2011 7:54:18 AM
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Belly, sorry mate but enough already.

I feel your pain. You ask the questions in the vain hope that someone somewhere will offer you an atom of hope.

The mere fact that the ALP and its supporters cannot speak of ALP policy without breathing fire about the opposition, is testimony to the level of desperation. This cannot be caused by the ALP so it must be the opposition.

If you really wish to know where the ALP is going you only have to look around at the political landscape. Precisely the same factors are in play federally as with NSW and that my disillusioned friend, is exactly where it is all going.

Foetal position everyone.
Posted by spindoc, Saturday, 21 May 2011 9:56:24 AM
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spindoc you devalue my thoughts and ideas.
You claim reasons for both that are untrue.
Yet that is your right.
We will not agree but do not put your own views above truth.
I need not mine for opposition sins, they are like shells on a beach after a storm.
My thoughts are shared, by far more of my party's voters than the party wishes.
My intention? not sure, I think we have a wide reading audience,and that my mob needs to come back to earth.
If ,and they have, they forget it is not a game , that support is no longer forever, they must except the boot in the ribs.
Con your self, blind your self, but even a landslide coalition win, quite a possibility, leaves you clutching a bag of policy's you must dump.
Like the landslide in NSW including my vote, a victorious Barry has broken his promises to who?
Middle income and pensioners on solar power being forced by his side to change his mind.
And look for a way out.
LABOR must now think about this, forget me, those you own, but never for get those you need.
Stop blaming Abbott, but stop too feeding him.
Ten years from now maybe twenty you WILL STILL BE REGRETTING THE MESS YOU HAVE MADE.
Yet we may just win an election, such is the sorry state of both leaders I will, unlike you, continue to be critical of my party, yours and to call for better from both.
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 21 May 2011 11:07:46 AM
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