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I Don't Believe in the Death Penalty but I am Glad he is Dead
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Posted by Poirot, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 11:18:58 PM
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Dear Yabby,
Perhaps there is a back story I am missing but on the face of it your last post is kinda creepy mate. Dear R0bert, Reports now that OBL was assassinated in front of his teenager daughter for being 'uncooperative' and 'resisting'. I would be too if my wife was shot before me. My childhood Superman comics had the caped crusader claiming he fought for "Truth, justice, and the American way." Perhaps it should instead read "... or the American Way". Was this a 'Death Squad' of the type we rightly condemn in Iraq? At the least this was an opportunity lost, at its worst it is a final farewelling of a now historical America, one that I am old enough to miss. Posted by csteele, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 11:20:45 PM
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I doubt that it will ever be tested but I have found myself wondering what the legal situation is for foreign soldiers storming a home in an urban area and shooting an unarmed man and as I understand it done without the prior knowledge of the Pakistan government.
Do US soldiers have a legal right to do that in Pakistan? There may be an existing agreement agreement between the governments which allows that kind of operation but it is an odd situation. R0bert Posted by R0bert, Thursday, 5 May 2011 7:10:51 AM
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Ah Poirot, now it all makes sense.
A chardonay socialist! Posted by Yabby, Thursday, 5 May 2011 9:15:54 AM
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We will never know all the facts.
I believe that there was covert cooperation with person(s) of significance within the Pakistani government or military - for reasons of safety for these people will never be known. "Death Squad"? Again we will never know for sure, I'm thinking that it was - a trial being too fraught, although a trial would bring out new information, that will never emerge now. As some details emerge, such as bin Laden being unarmed I am more inclined to believe that bin Laden was assassinated. I believe the event was filmed given that still photos of President Obama and his colleagues showed them watching events as they occurred. @R0bert Interesting that you view life imprisonment as more inhumane than death penalty. Not sure about this - I try to keep an open mind but I find the arrangement of an execution as completely barbarous and does not lead to a reduction in horrific crimes. I have no sympathy for the likes of bin Laden, Pol Pot, Hitler, Stalin and too many others. As for agreeing with each other - no one agrees with everyone all of the time - I can even be surprised at Runner, still waiting to be surprised by Formersnag :) In addition to the above - I will remain conflicted regarding the death penalty - innocents may well be executed and it does nothing for the evolution or enlightenment of the human race overall. Which is why I raised this topic, we do feel conflicted if we are to remain open-minded - even people like bin Laden or Charles Manson cause angst and confusion. As I said at the start of this topic a part of me was relieved and glad that bin Laden is dead - but that doesn't make it right. Posted by Ammonite, Thursday, 5 May 2011 9:49:14 AM
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yabby...you got no idea about syncronicity
[and why should i correct you] but dreaming has nothing to do with certain..things happening at the same time but how you all came to that from im glad he's dead is so typical of how things get highjacked i get a lot of my info from syncronicity its about being in the right place..at the right time because nothing is without meaning..once your fully in the moment there are no co-incidents life is a stream of consiousness if your aware that there are constantly events occuring to help you in any situation... [miracles happen..because even we have a bit of god[good]..sustaining us our life] but its pearl before the ignorant and generally off topic here so i said what needed saying here http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=4443&page=0 the sunmation being..obama was lied to by his 'advisers' how is explained at the link you want to talk specifily about syn-crone-icity make it a topic its best demonstrated i have discussed it here http://www.celestinevision.com/celestine/forum/index.php till i got banned..from there but even that..was syncronousity i found the next forum..by following the other bannings..i got here...via syncrinicity but like anything...if you dont know you chose to not know so dont speculate deciets dreaming aint syncronicty [but i could be missing something..you got proof] sincronicity is such a clever thing..you might have a next step and even if i dont think so.. at this time*..timimg is every*thing thus..my faith in it..needs to ask..just in case... Posted by one under god, Thursday, 5 May 2011 9:58:36 AM
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Nice to know I'm keeping you intrigued.
Actually, I've deliberately avoided mentioning my partner or his profession as it wouldn't be compatible with your idea of me being a "Marxist chick"
I've got my reputation to uphold : )