Banjo"How come you believe is AGW as per views expressed in other posts'That is an out and out lie Banjo and you know it.I've always been na AGW skeptic and most on this site know that.It just irks you that the tables and turning and the climate scare mongerers are losing the debate.

Pericles the 20,000 scientists never got media coverage.It is the media that sets the parameters of the debate not the scientists.The Corporates at the pyramid apex have a vested interest in AGW for justifying their eugenics philosophy and bring in ETS and carbon taxes.They benefit from both.

Belly,
I am being fair dinkum. Arjay may well be a conspiracy theorist, but you have just agreed with me that both major parties and big business are involved in a conspiracy relating to immigration. This makes both you and I conspiracy theorists as well. You don't put forward any other reason why Labot supports very high immigration.

You can see my views on world population on that current thread. In Aus we need to drasticaly cut immigration and train our own skilled workers.

On other threads you support human induced climate change and now you say climate is controled by the sun, so which is it?

I do not have intense views on human induced climate change. I am a sceptic and wait for proof of what the alarmists like Flannery and Gore say. Dispite many years and billions spent, proof is not existant. I think it is stupid to spend money on a problem which may not exist or we have no control over.

Arjay, take control mate.
That remark was CLEARLY ADDRESSED AT ME.
You owe Banjo a sorry mate.

What an odd title for a discussion.

NASA notices the sun, yup, in fact they noticed the sun for a long time now, long enough to write the following interesting history of of the effects of sunspot activity over the eons.

http://solarscience.msfc.nasa.gov/SunspotCycle.shtml

Just as Climatologists have studied past and present climate cycles. All of this research in order to understand the many and varied influences on earth's atmosphere and the impact of pollutants into the atmosphere before drawing conclusions.

Unlike the Andrew Bolt brigade who not only have never studied science but, unlike scientists, are incapable of looking at issues from all sides.

Ammonite,
Could you post Andrew Bolt's denial of the sun affecting atmosphere.

Arjay,
That remark by me was directed to Belly, as was the whole post.