Posted by spindoc, Saturday, 9 April 2011 9:51:33 AM

" ... She seems to have opened just too many battle fronts for her government to be sustainable. ... "

It has long been considered wise not to underestimate your opponent *SpinDoc,* and more specifically I suspect that the ALP comes to understand that how by engaging more and more widely with the community, portflio by porfolio, that the emparted sense of being involved and sharing in the decision making process will create additional adherents, who are also capable of advocacy, when appropriately stimulated. .. Indeed, Dog Whistle Mark II. ..

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*ShadowMinister*

Whilst smaller in number, the Japanese forces came in through the Singaporean strategic weak point, and were rewarded with the live painting of the pom bowing to the Superior of the moment. HaHaHa.

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I sniff an *Australia Card* in the wing, where the efforts of "Max the Axe" looks like the work of a pre-schooler.

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I for 1 do not expect politicians to be perfect, but I do expect them to be cogniscant of that fact.

And now, it is pleasing to me that the Liberal Party are gradually becoming *True Believers* regarding the Climate, as it really is in the here and now.

Sorry dream on I can not get the meaning of your post.
Quantum leap, leap as you like to say?
See age has nothing to do with opinion, and insults are not words of wisdom.
You insult half of us based on age, I ask are you still in school?
Individual has worked hard to be as biased as he is, it has nothing to do with age.
Now both party's need a hand on their shoulders.
A reminder Parliament is not a private boys school, that running the country not ruining it is the task.
I can only hope we can one day face issues of great importance without the slander and media beat ups, without self interest.

Pericles, Sympathy for Julia? You must be joking?

I have no problem with a bit of “understanding and balance” as Belly puts it however, what is it we are trying to understand and balance here?

We are all responsible for our actions regardless of whether or not we accept that. The law of unintended consequences is not selective.

We had a government that became so unpopular under Rudd/Gillard that the electorate wiped out a sixteen seat ALP majority plus a couple more seats.

Julia made commitments to the Greens and independents in order to retain power, those commitments are increasingly unsustainable and Julia is paying an extraordinary political and personal price.

When you say “She finds herself in a position, unique in Australian political history,” you seem to imply that this was all someone else’s fault that she suddenly “found herself” there. You also seek to lay blame or excuse her predicament on the media, Kevin, labor caucus, labor lightweights and even more extraordinary, her coalition partners?

In her desperation to retain power, she not only compromised any remaining ALP principles, she also compromised risk assessment, unintended consequences and sustainability. She is now being bitten very badly by all three compromises. Tough!

It’s interesting that regardless of how bad things get for our government, ALP support still focuses upon “Ah well, it could be worse if we had Tony”. What is it we are not learning? Tony will remain a small target and “policy light” until the next election, regardless of how much the Liberal opposition is provoked. The government has opened up far too many conflicts with far too many opponents on far too many highly contentious issues and will grind to a halt.

How can we predict this? It is exactly the same model as the NSW ALP because that is “from whence this model came” and we know what happens to this model.

As they say in the “Little Britain” comedy, Yeh but, Ah but, No but.

Julia has made a very uncomfortable bed and must not only lay on it, she must share it!

Dear Individual,

I'm sorry that you seem to think that Labor has caused you grief. I know how you feel. Many Victorians feel the same way about the Kennett government. Most of us lost a great deal. So you see it's all a matter of what we experience and under whom.

Individual has worked hard to be as biased as he is, it has nothing to do with age.
Belly,
Labor cronie bureaucrats did all the work to make me disapprove of Labor not any bias on my part. Bias is lending support blindly. Only those who have no integrity do that. Like those who voted for Gillard. I'm observing with eyes & ears wide open. How can I ignore & deny what I observe ?

Dear Individual,

No one is asking you to deny what you observed. Others are simply presenting you with their take on things. If the world consisted simply of some self-evident reality that everyone perceived in exactly the same way, there might be no disagreement among observers.
But the truth of the matter is that what we see is shaped by what our past experience has prepared us to see and by what we consciously or unconsciously want to see.

Therefore inevitably we'll all be guilty of some measure of bias - the tendency, to interpret facts according to one' own values. As I've written in the past - how can this problem be solved? The first step is to recognize that subjectivity and objectivity are not too neat and separate categories; they are really matters of degree. By exercising caution, we can at least try to be as objective as possible. Total objectivity is probably impossible to achieve but a self-conscious effort to be objective would help in our interaction with fellow contributors - especially in discussions on forums such as this one.