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NBN suspends tender due to price concerns

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Lexi said;
and that all Australians will have access to health care services
without leaving home."

Hmmm, at first I thought this was a joke.
Diagnostic services, each house to have x-ray and aucoustic scanners
on line ?
Medicine delivered over the internet ?
ASk your doctor what he thinks of this.

Our esteemed minister for the NBN has demonstrated that he does not
have a clue and no one has done any more than suggested that hospitals
will have on lime x-ray scanners for remote specialists.

Oh dear.
Posted by Bazz, Sunday, 3 April 2011 5:04:20 PM
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Dear Bazz,

Oh dear, is correct. An imperative point to remember prior to posting is to always know your topic. You obviously have no idea what the electronic delivery of health services via NBN is all about. Therefore may I suggest that you Google "NBN and Telehealth," to have a few things clarified for you.
Posted by Lexi, Sunday, 3 April 2011 5:33:44 PM
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Lexi,

The single biggest flaw in Labor's argument is that you don't need 100Mb/s to deliver these services.

I have run video teleconferences that run perfect well on 100kb/s and 1Mb/s delivers superb communications. The 12Mb/s minimum proposed with the NBN can deliver multiple high definition channels. This is not required for business or health only gaming.

The rates required for business or health can be delivered for a fraction of the cost of the NBN and Labor knows it.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Sunday, 3 April 2011 7:02:25 PM
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Dear Lexi, your 'tall poppy' attitude is coming on load and clear.

BTW, are you not aware that CEO's salary packages are generally a percentage of the over all profit of the corporation they run?

Now it only stands to reason that an executive on say $5million per year is a tad more clever and on the ball than a Polly on say $500K.

In any case, my suggestion is for a panel 'TO ASSIST' in the decision making process. Not to take over.

Now I am not the sharpest tool in the shed, but i'm also no dill and I have not got a clue how much this NBN will cost me, nor do I think the average joe on the street does.

This is my point.

Now, can you honestly guarantee that if we spend between 45 and 60 billion, that we don't have, that it will be a success.

Furthermore, given that you are fully supportive of the NBN, can you firstly provide the level of 'take up' that is required for this to be a success and, most importantly, what is our exit plan should it fail?

Now I would suggest that if you can't answer all of these questions, then perhaps you should jump ship and join us.

At the end of the day, it is 'we', the 'tax payers' who will ultimately foot the bill and all we want is assurances that we won't have yet another failed scheme on our hands.
Posted by rehctub, Sunday, 3 April 2011 8:29:38 PM
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Lexi, I suggest you go quiet while the going is good.
You are well in over your depth.
For patient momitoring 1200 bd would be plenty. 4800 bd would be very
satisfactory and 9600 bd would be extravagant.
Even for the patient to have a video link would not really need more
than about a one megabit. However because the patient would have
digital TV it would be cheaper to use a higher rate.
A frame store could be used to reduce the data speed.
Oh well I wonder how many patients would prefer to speak in person to
their doctor. Still doctors could mail the patient and endoscope.
I can just picture the scene, oh dear I couldn't even describe it !

Even the gynecologists could get in on the act. The mind boggles.
The possibilities of eHealth are endless, if you will pardon the pun.
Posted by Bazz, Sunday, 3 April 2011 10:25:52 PM
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Now that I have the giggles under control;

The eHealth application that has any real possibility is patient data.
We are a long behind Brazil in that field and we should pack someone
off to Sao Paulo to have a look.

Any Doctor anywhere can just pull up any patient and have everything
to hand. Even if the patient is in an ambulance the data is available.
All past x-rays are stored as well as prescriptions and notes.

The NBN will do no more than do what is already done, in that in many
hospitals patients are monitored and a radio link is used to get the
data from the bed to the nurse's station.
A simple matter to stuff that into a modem and send it on its way to
Timbuktoo.

Anyone would think the NBN was going to make all this possible.
It has all been possible for years.
It does not need the NBN, the medical people are just not interested.
They want to be able to see & smell the patient and put hands on.

It is just that it is going to cost us $B50 +, to get it there in
100 usecs instead of 1 msec. Oh my gord, what have they wrort ?
Posted by Bazz, Sunday, 3 April 2011 10:49:13 PM
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