I have supposed 'poor people' come to my shop with a 'food voucher' from a local charity.

They use this to buy their meat and sometimes you will note they have a 'slab' sitting in their trolley.

Now come on, are you trying to tell me that one is poor but can afford a slab. Poor money manager perhaps, but certainly not poor.

I say again, STOP THE CASH handouts and you will limit the amount of starving kids.

Are you also aware that many kids today exist on '2 min noodles'.

That's right, that's their staple diet and for special treats they get take out pizza.

We should also be redirecting a portion of welfare into providing decent meals at school tuck shops 'for every kid'.

You see, our governments know that by handing out 'cash', a certain percentage will come back to them via taxes. Grog, cigs, gambling.

Just imagine if you went shopping, spent your $200 then received a cheque in the mail which represents part of your spend.

This is what governments get and they are reliant on these cheques (taxes)

Under international agreements other country's pay pensions to their nationals who live here too,
Belly,
When I made enquiries I was told the pension would be paid for three months unless you came back to Australia to present yourself & then another three months & so on.
Not what I would call Australian pensioners getting a good deal from their own Government.

Sorry individual I do not think that is the case, stand to be proven wrong but thousands of past tax payers live in Greece and Italy for a start.
And any blame placed on government belongs to every one we have had in the last 25 years.
Rechtub, we are drifting apart, no intention to dog whistle against all on welfare.
May I say while my views belong beside the three posts I credited earlier we all should consider this.
This subject is now prisoner to emotions.
On both sides, in the middle some interesting points exist.
Every dollar spent is tax payer funds.
Most of those poor are or have been tax payers.
I will never believe most or even close to it Australians do not want welfare.
I however support Labor in its efforts to get value and assurances it is spending the money wisely.
Let those who truly care, who understand hunger, and loss of life opportunity's be the first to say want not waste.
And for those who blacken all, know it could be you one day.
I remember rechtub a weeks work I did as kid, in todays money I got $1 it bought a small pack of ten Rothmans cigarettes for my hero, my dad, 6 loaves of bread and half a sugar bag of corned mutton flaps, the meat the very poor grew up on.
Still think it is the best meat I ever ate.
Mum? she got a small bottle of pashiona, luxury? waste? have you ever loved some one?
Even the dole supports small business cash is cash.

It is so clear Belly that you do not understand the term, welfare. You jump to dole bludgers immediately.

There are some, mainly in politics frankly but the majority of people want to work rather than get paid a pittance. But they don't want to do work that they don't want. They don't want to work in the sun, they don't want to pick fruit and they want work a reasonhable distance from home.

The welfare issue is about penalising people who can't fight back. Pensioners, disabled and so on. Easy marks but you focus on one group.

The Disablity payment is a joke is it Ralph?

How do you determine who's abusing it and who's not?

Do you think you just rock up and say I don't feel well or something?

Actually you need a specialist, not a GP, to certify that one won't be able to work for three years.

Tell me how you abuse that?

Again, Belly, you're an idiot looking for something that isn't there.

Did you ever report these people or were you one of them? As you can dob them in, you just need to be able to prove it, rather than making wild irrational statements.

Perhaps there's a group of specialists who are conspiring to bring the country to it's knees? Perhaps you are paranoid and irrational?

rehctub

You're an idiot too. They NEVER pay cash, even to aboriginals on communities that don't have bankc. Cash went out over 20 years ago you stupid gossip spreader.

Wow, even Belly thinks you are simple.

At last, a normal view from Lexi instead of the rabid who would die if they had an accident and could not earn. They'd be at Centrelink like a rat up a drainpipe.

3 good ones in a row, showing concern for other humans, well done guys.

The real cost of welfare was created by John Howard. He made more welfare recipients than all of history did. By giving child care and family assistance to those up to $125,000.

If people can't aford to look after their kids then why should society pay? Didn't happen for me, 4 kids but now I pay for everyone's. I even see these greedy pigs now asking for it to be tax deductable. Just give them a gun and a stocking and the freedom to take what they want. That's where the real abuse is. Not poor people who can't aford to live and skip meals and don't take meds.