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Don't read my lips.
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Posted by Hasbeen, Friday, 25 February 2011 1:07:28 PM
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I doubt you will get much response hasbeen, as this site seams heavily weighed down with labor followers, many of whom simply think they (labor)can do no wrong. Perhaps with the exception of my mate belly.
You see, they are somewhat in denial as to what has happened in the past four or so years, some even think the waste and mismanagement has been a good thing as it has provided jobs. Anyway, it will be interesting to see what excuses they come up with this time. I suspect they will simply avoid the topic. BTW. Did you notice how madam PM used the Christchurch disaster as a 'smoke screen' for her lies. If our independents are 'true independents', (which I doubt) they may cause some grief for her over this one. Posted by rehctub, Sunday, 27 February 2011 7:36:58 AM
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“There will be no carbon tax”. “There will be a charge on carbon”. Both said during the campaign. Also a commitment to deal with climate change with a charge on carbon. All this was said at the same interview. It was also said that nothing would happen before 2012.
Yes her comment was at the very least stupid, but has she lied or has she changed her opinion to deal with the situation of a hung parliament. If Labor had obtained government in their own right, would there be a carbon tax being discussed now. In her flavour, Labor had rejected the Greens call for a temporary tax. PM Gillard is copping the backlash, she created with her stupid statement. The question that I ask, should she not introduce a necessary tax, forerunner to an ETS or temporary tax on carbon until a ETS could be developed. PM Gillard is copping the backlash, she created with her stupid statement. The question that I ask, should she not introduce a necessaries tax, forerunner to an ETS, because of that statement she made twice in the dying days of a campaign. Does anyone believe that there would not be a charge of some type on carbon. What us being disputed is not a charge but the type of charge, that is a tax being imposed. Does anyone believe that Mr. Abbott's plan is better policy? Does anyone believe that Mr. Abbott's plan will work? Does anyone believe that Mr. Abbott's plan will not cost the taxpayers' money? If we believe that climate change is important and needs addressing, we must be careful not to cut off our nose to spite our face. Posted by Flo, Monday, 28 February 2011 10:36:51 AM
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The positive side of this is that Labor is sliding in the polls, and has dropped 2 points. For a change, the greens have also dropped 1 point, which implies that this is a whole hearted rejection of the bait and switch fraud pulled on the Australian voters.
http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-national/labor-support-drops-after-carbon-tax-deal-20110228-1bbmp.html Posted by Shadow Minister, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 10:23:47 AM
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private philosophy again equals public performance. Knifing in the back and lying is okay for moral relativist. You can justify anything when you deny absolutes. We have reaped what we have sown with a deceitful, lying Government in bed with the earth worshippers.
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 10:53:43 AM
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Q. Will an Australian tax on carbon reduce the worlds CO2 emissions?
If not, why have it! Q. Assuming it doesn't, can we afford to take this risk and make ourselves yet less competitive on the global markets? Remember, we have only really got two industries left. Mining and aluminium, both of which will most likely be hit with this tax, as well as the mining tax. Is this clever business? Q. Who is going to pay the tax? Madam PM says the people won't, she says that business won't, so it is left up to the 'carbon generators' who will and, more importantly, when they do will they in fact pass the additional costs on to the businesses and ultimately the consumers? Copenhagen was a waste of time and money so can someone please explain to me why this government is hell bent on winning the trophy on emissions reduction when we produce less than 1% of the worlds emissions? In fact, if Australia ceased to exist tomorrow, I doubt the effect on CO2 emissions 'globally' would even be noticed. This really puzzles me. Posted by rehctub, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 3:33:02 PM
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There is a forked tongue behind those lips, & you should not expect to get anything even approaching the truth to issue from them.
So said our Julia, although in other words, when she announced a new carbon tax. After stating, categorically, that there would be no carbon tax introduced by a government she led, just before the election, she now says everyone knew it was coming.
Well, we now know how seriously to take any thing that comes from this discredited mouth in future.
Labor, you have excelled yourself, in choosing this lying woman to lead you. She has rolled over, puppy like, for Bob Brown to scratch her belly, & you have all rolled over with her.
Shame on you.