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Dual Citizenship?

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Banjo,

I am not asking for your compassion.
I am not asking you to evacuate me if in trouble overseas, and if you do so anyway, I expect to fully reimburse your expenses out of my own pocket.

All I say is, what right on earth have you to take away from me a piece of paper which happens to be very useful in my circumstances?

Note that an Australian could be living overseas with or without such piece of paper - they could have a sole Australian citizenship but be living as a permanent-resident elsewhere. My piece of paper does you no harm!
Posted by Yuyutsu, Thursday, 10 February 2011 12:33:13 PM
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Sorry Bazz lost every last bit of respect for you, once gone never to return.
You make a claim you should know is untrue.
Totally for the world to see you tell an untruth.
It is clear, any one can see, I get in to my side often in public,my threads are often for just that reason.
I have to ask can anything you say be believed?
You SURELY KNOW EVERY PARTY IN THIS COUNTRY SUPPORTS DUAL CITIZENSHIP.
I forever hold my self accountable for my every word.
Your self confidence Sir is miss placed, under valuing your opponents while over valuing you own is folly.
I would expect some very entrenched conservatives to agree that I have opinions good and bad about my side.
Bazz, find my post this day in Abbott pm by what ever, tell me my words he did not want to insult a dead soldier came from an ALP robot.
I doubt Sir you have the ability to understand just how wrong and insulting your baseless comments are.
Once I greatly respected you, would turn the other check ten times but not ever again for you unless, and I doubt it, you are man enough to withdraw that untruth.
This comment more even than being told I and my party are pedophiles is the most insulting thing ever said to me here.
I take my right to rebut it ask your self bloke why you went that low?
Posted by Belly, Thursday, 10 February 2011 1:12:21 PM
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My Friend do not let Bazz do to you what he did to me upset you.
Like him I am a ham radio operator,did not quite get 45 years up in Bushfires but put in to many other good groups.
19 years radio with Australian Iron man at Foster before it went north.
Did not do it to crow, never marched in Sydney it is one of life's pleasures to help for its own sake.
Bazz was doing great work in our hobby , but he will not look here,just maybe the once good bloke no longer can.
It was his team Howard who bought those Lebanese home.
I have never heard ANY EVIDENCE THAT THEY ALL HAD PERMANENT HOMES THERE.
Should we not bring them home, is race a reason for not caring for our own, is bigotry involved in Bazz STAND.
I am less than a fan of Muslims, not hiding it, but Egypt is the other concern leading Bazz to brand me and LABOR for bringing them home.
In fact in stating his dislikes he charged me with blind support for Labor yet it is him, very few others who do not except dual citizenship.
I can not pass up the CRIMSON STUPID STATEMENT about thieves ext on what evidence.
This thread dispite its Authors denial is about politics and hate, xenophobia shines clearly .
Posted by Belly, Thursday, 10 February 2011 1:29:43 PM
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The claims and statements of this threads author are strong.
And not shared by most Australians.
That Bazz is your right.
As it is mine to defend myself.
I would have thought you could at least answer my claims.
Your comment needs an answer.
Are only those who say what you find favor with to be considered to have opinions not bought about by political affiliations?
I await your reports on your opposition to your sides plans and policy's having reviewed you post history I am unable to find them.
Posted by Belly, Friday, 11 February 2011 5:49:02 AM
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belly ,
Sorry for the delay in posting, but i was out all day helping a neighbour, we had a few beers after and time got away.

Since I cannot see a Bazz posting here, I am assuming you are referring to me and the reference seems to indicate that you think I also post here under the name Bazz.

You are suffering from delussion and barking up the wrong tree. I have only one name here, which is Banjo. I think it is against the rules to use two or more. In any case i wouldn't have the skills to do so, i am flat out doing what i do now. Wouldn't one need two passwords and two email addresses, so how is that arranged? If you have doubts then by all means ask the moderators to look into it, you have my blessing to do so.

Again you seem hell bent in bring party politics into the issue. I said before that Downer was the minister when the Lebanon rorts were exposed and the governments have since had ample time to rectify and stop the rorts, but they have not.

I notice that again you are unable to give reason for your support for dual citizenship, so again I suggest it is simply you following your party line.

I have not bothered to look up who Bazz is and what his posts are like and i have not, as i recall, had any debate or conversations with him. I take it he is a poster on ONO.

What ever makes you think that i have party connections or support any party is news to me, perhaps you can enlighten me. I critisize both major parties and the greens when i see fit.
Posted by Banjo, Friday, 11 February 2011 9:06:06 AM
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Just a couple of items.

I may be wrong but I believe that the Australian Government back charges Citizens it repatriates from overseas for the direct expense. Can anyone confirm or deny?

Secondly, I am always uncomfortable with Australian Pensions that are paid overseas for excessive periods.

However, my reason is the loss to the economy of the multiplier effect of the spending of an Australian pension in the Australian economy.

A pension fully spent in Australia is turned over at least 4 times in circular movement through the economy. It almost pays for itself.

Look at it this way, we get excited if an overseas tourist spends $250 a week as a boost to the economy. A pensioner is more value if we consider them, economically, as a long term permanent tourist that spends $250 a week.

On a side issue, maybe the real financial value of dual Australian Citizenship is when the dual citizen calls on the Australian Health and Pharmaceutics schemes after years of overseas residence.

Finally, a few links that may have other similar issues involved.

http://benefitof.net/benefits-of-us-citizenship/

http://benefitof.net/benefits-of-dual-citizenship/

http://benefitof.net/benefits-of-irish-citizenship/
Posted by Dicko, Friday, 11 February 2011 1:18:40 PM
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