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Dual Citizenship?

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Belly,
You can do better than call others names or imply they are xenophobic.
That was CJM's style and the term was a favotite of his.

I don't dislike Yuyutsu but do find some of his comments silly and don't bother replying. He has a right to his views. So don't say sorry on my behalf, I have every right to my views whether you agree or not.

My question is still, What advantage is there for Australia to allow dual citizenship? Simple question. Did it occur to you that the lack of response indicates no one can show advantage and the majority of posters here cannot find fault in what I have said.

You say you welcome dual citizenship, but do not say why. Funny you agree with something but not know why. Suggest it is simply because your party says so. That is hardly a considered reason. Maybe you are not capable of thinking outside your parties policies.

You ignored the 'baby bonus' example, so lets try another. what about high immigration, both major parties agree with that, what say you?
Do you have an opinion or just follow the party line.

You see I don't have a team as you call it. I think for myself and I dissagree with high immigration, mainly because we cannot supply the infastructure, water, roads and transport, etc. for the present population. Yet the fools in Canberra keep loading more and more people on us.

As Lebanon showed and now Egypt, accomodating those with dual citizenship can be an expensive business, so am I missing something? Surely there must be more to it than simply saving Yuyutsu, and others, the slight inconvienience of obtaining a visa if he wants to visit his aged parents.

Dual citizenship appears to be a rort that is costly to Australia.
Posted by Banjo, Tuesday, 8 February 2011 8:39:10 PM
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"What advantage is there for Australia to allow dual citizenship?"

- What advantage is there for Australia to allow owning pets?
- What advantage is there for Australia to allow having friends?
- What advantage is there for Australia to allow going on holidays?
- What advantage is there for Australia to allow listening to music?
- What advantage is there for Australia to allow practicing religion?
- What advantage is there for Australia to allow living in comfort?
- What advantage is there for Australia to allow eating fancy foods?
- What advantage is there for Australia to allow wearing fancy clothes?
- What advantage is there for Australia to allow owning property?
- What advantage is there for Australia to allow sleeping more than 6 hours a night?

Nay, Australians should only be allowed to work, work and work, till they drop dead: all other privileges are costly to Australia. Shooting the lazy ones who work too slowly is beneficial to Australia because it is the cheapest way to encourage Australians work harder and achieve the Great Australia of our common benefit.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 3:58:21 AM
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I am sorry about this Banjo, but retreat is not an option.
Do you wish your comments to be regarded as sound?
Am I to believe you think before posting.
Can you understand all views have a right to air.
You join an exclusive group this morning.
I want you to reconsider you child like question.
MATE you surely know, I do have the same rights you claim for your self.
Are your words, the question do I have opinions a slur or can it be? that you truly want, from a poster who has so often challenged his own party an answer?
I truly hope you only wanted to insult me, if not further debate with you is wasteful you just would in that case not understand.
Dual citizen ships are no threat to us is it true in fact the thread was about bringing Australian passport holders home, has the ethnicity of both mentioned groups any thing to do with your heated insults.
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 5:55:29 AM
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Once again, always wise to place 'one self' in another person's shoes; non Australian, Australian or any person. All of those people innocently caught up in the riots of Egypt were visiting for different reasons.

Yuyutsu and Belly spot on (remind me there are fellow Aussies around who would walk past me after flying off my mountain bike or sitting injured in a vehicle) somewhere if it cost them anything. Yet how many people have myself and others helped where it has involved risking my life, their lives and dollars..........

Question for Banjo and Hasbeen - if you require assistance from an 'Australian' SES volunteer, the bush fire brigade, or AFP at any stage, how would you know, if one of these people assisting you in the future, was not trying to return from Cairo or anywhere in Egypt from an overseas posting or visit in their work capacity.

At any rate, compassion should be the top priority in assisting people when we are able to do so.
Posted by weareunique, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 10:06:50 PM
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I know should have done some research first but it just came to mind.
Would Russel crow born in NZ have dual citizen ship?
With out much thought now how about the many we claim as Aussies born there.
Seen that American born star we claim, has he two pass ports?
Our prime minister if she wished, watch the slur that brings, could have two.
I look one day to a world that is one , not reason to divide.
Thanks WAU I would help you and both without a seconds thought, but fear some would not.
Posted by Belly, Thursday, 10 February 2011 6:52:20 AM
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weareunique,
You picked the wrong organization relating to my community service. I have 45 years direct involvement with Busfire Brigades and have held most positions in a voluntary capacity.I have done my bit for the community.

If you think compassion is the main criteria for getting people out of Egypt and Lebanon. Then, by your standard, we should take all and sundry that wish to leave, and keep going back until there is no one else wanting to leave, irrpesective of nationality. The world would love us.

I have heaps of compassion for others, but can't stand, thieves, welfare cheats and rorters, and that is exactly what the majority of those we evacuated from Lebanon were, rorters. Their alliegence to Australia was such that they went to live in a foreign country permanantly, and some collected our social welfare as well. Then when things turned sour for them they 'demanded' that we rescue them. That is a rort!

I also have compassion for refugees, but not for the fraudsters and cheats that come by boat from Indonesia, after flying halfway around the world and paying smugglers far more than the airfare to Aus. The genuine refugees are either stuck somewhere or, if they have the money, fly here and then apply for asylum.

The Lebanon exercise demonstrated what a rort the dual citizenship can be and the government then should have acted to stop it. Now we have a likely similar thing on a smaller scale in Egypt.

As for Belly, he will publicly support anything that is Labor policy. He may argue against things in the party room but support the party line outside. That is what good party members do. He cannot give reason for his support for dual citizenship, so his compassion is brought into question. I would expect nothing less than he follow the party line
Posted by Banjo, Thursday, 10 February 2011 12:00:58 PM
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