Easy times.

No doubt those people who shot the Wonderful Dr Victa Chann in Sydney share your views.

I think Australians have seen enough of the forced! organ donners thank You.

I hope the Government never introduces forced Donners. If nothing else but out of respect for that wonderful man who was murdered becuase he refused to get into this forced organ donner trade that you speak of.

Our fathers before us fought for a free country with freedom of choice.

Celiva.
I am not surprised you have put a great deal of thought into your post.

Yes I too have often thought about the prisoners as well as the homeless and perhaps people without any living relatives.


Certainly its a nice thought to leave another person a donation that may either improve or even save a life.

You wont get any argument from anybody on that I am sure.

However its a very personal choice involving that person and their family alone.


To say if you dont become a donner you are selfish makes me feel you may have experienced or witnessed a personal loss.

We should try to understand your feeling of frustration and anger at your loss if thats the case.
Our hearts go out to anybody who has been in such a horrible postion but trying to force others to agree to donate for eg- The eyes of their young child killed in a car accident is simply wrong

I agree, PALE, that organ donation should not be forced but should remain a personal choice.

EasyTimes, I think that organ donation should be strongly encouraged by educating people (e.g. media and schools) about the difference they can really make by the last thing they can do for others- donating their organs after passing away.
I have the impression that some people just don't know how much their organs are in demand and the lives of people they can save.
There are children without mothers or fathers because there was no organ available for them. There are parents who lost children, uncles and aunts who lost nephews and nieces, grandparents who lost children or grand children, all because someone didn't know their organs were wanted, or because someone didn't bother to opt in.

However, I am not going to judge the ones who choose not to donate their organs- you'll never know what they have gone through in life and they might have their reasons for refusing to donate.

Perhaps a reminder is appropriate. This thread isn't about whether anyone should be forced to be an organ donor. The question is whether a person should signify their willingness by saying "yes". Or opting out by saying "No". I prefer the opting out by saying "No" alternative, because we know that it produces more donated organs. And it doesn't make anyone do anything which is significantly or irreversibly against their wishes, does it?

What do you need your organs for when you die PALE? Do you have some primitive belief like the ancient Egyptians that you need your organs in the after life?

People you have 2 choices in the event of your death, you can either choose to feed your organs to the worms I am sure the worms will be very grateful or you can choose to help another person and give them a second chance at life and not only make them very happy but also all there family and friends.

It’s not exactly the money or the box is it?

I'm with Rex on this one.

An organ can save a life. If I'm dead, I really don't need it. If we generally assume a yes, but ensure that people always have the right to say no if they wish, then I don't really see the problem.

There is a desperate shortage of organs. Talk to the children who need them, and see if you still think the idea is stupid.

I repeat - everyone should have the right to say no to organ donation. I just think we should assume they would want to save a life rather than not, and if they say no, well that's fine too.

Easytimes.

Pardon my Mirth and I smile at your question. Of course this 'is' a serious question but considering the circumstances your question > [ What Do You need your organs for when you die PALE ]cracked me up.

The head of PETA Animal Libbers who are extreme, appeared on 60 minutes. She declaired that when she died she wanted her organs to be donated to different fund raising campaigns!.

She wanted her skin cooked on BBQs- "She said" people would walk past and smell her skin burning and say "Oh! thats that animal lady".

Clearly any normal thinking member of the public would consider her a nut. People like that do more harm than good as far as I am concerned.

Hence your question "What do you need your organs for when you die for PALE" Tickled my funny bone.

I thought perhaps I should clear up. [Rather quickly in case you had confused us with the extreme lot]

No PALE in conjunction RSPCA QLD does not require their organs for after life BBQS.

Phew! However that said I guess it does open another argument doesnt it.

If the founder of PETA Ingrid wants to leave her organs to raise awareness to animal cruelty who are you or I to tell her she cant or what to do?

I already expressed that I think that system you suggested would be wide open to abuse.

Those are my feelings. My utter disgust for those who murdered Dr Chan.

Extreme anything easy isnt good.
I told you a large number of my family ARE donours but that does not mean I would hassle the others.

Yes we have discussed it and "really it is a family thing".

If I were you and wanted to help I would contact NIB or Medi bank Private or some of the health insurance companies. Ask if they will enclose forms when they sign people online or post renewals out.
Perhaps even some banks.
Why not try the Peoples Bank - St George, I hear they are branching out these days.