ybgirp and Celiva
Thank You.
I should I suppose hang my head in Shame. I actually replied to Rex after his comment about staying on track but deleated it.
Call me a Coward for the first time Celiva but Rex has expressed some willingness to try to help the animals if you look on the Kevin Rudd thread.
They say every man has his price. I didnt want to get him off side. I will hold my breath and hope his chats with Yabby pay off. Sorry off track]
However Rex they are correct. Thats why we open threads to get others point of views.
I repeat we must never forget what they did to Dr Chan. Never!
A letter to the leaders wanting to gain some votes suggesting Medi care make it the norm for people to say either way would take care of this problem.
Probably be a race to the post. You should not have much trouble putting that through.

Still the counter argument to it has to be all the extra costs and no dought the public will want it to be covered under free health system.
Personally I think its going to create huge problems down the track.
We have credit card frauds and licence frauds and enough corruption already.
Just imagine the luctrative trade in switching info for organs.

Why not print posters to go in all hospitals everywhere- both public and private and have donner forms at all hospital counters as well.
Oh and dont forget the St George bank[smile]
Thank you to both of you for speaking out and keeping me honest.
I misjudged you ybgirp. I do apoligise. I also think like you on a world wide scale.
Love to have your imput on a few other things.
Rex what do you think of the comments on your post so far
Do you like the medi care idea
Do you know what Steve Fieldings policy is on organs?

Hi everyone. I don't claim to own this thread and everyone is entitled to post as they see fit.

It is Australian govt policy to increase the number of organ donors. Those countries which use the "opt out if you don't want to be a donor" method have a higher percentage of donors, so obviously this method is more efficient at achieving the required result. I like efficiency and I believe that govt should, wherever reasonably possible, be efficient. And Australia is not efficient in so many ways.

Rex

Thanks for answeing

I dont know I kind Of Have one foot in each camp about this to be really honest with you.
I have read your comments and totally agree. I have read others comments as well supporting to opt out idea.
I guess I need to make a choice however and let me tell you its not an easy one after the loss of a dear friend becuase there was no transplant available.
I know this is going to sound strange to you but it just doesnt seem right somehow.
It sort of takes away the respect thing of that special person was has just died.
To be left in peace after ones gone is something that has always been a 'basic right.'

People are distressed enough after an accident or death without having the feeling their loved one is being used for spare parts and touched by a stranger.
Its sort of a 'sarcred time.'
Just doesnt seem right somehow to me.

I think it would change societys attitude not only to dieing but living too.
Now everybody can write how selfish I am but is respect for the dead less important than respect for the living

Thank you, Rex.
I agree with you about the importance of efficiency. I still favour the opt-out system.

PALE
No it is not selfish, it just shows you are exploring your feelings and thoughts about donations. That's why people should not be forced into donating, it should always remain a choice.

May be not only do we need to make our wishes known about donating our organs, but also about receiving organs. Perhaps not all donors want to be receivers of other's organs.

I understand your feeling about 'sacred time' after a person close to you has passed away.
But if one of my children happened to die I would find it a pacifying thought that at least their death has saved the life of someone else.

Donating organs is the very last thing we can do to help end someone's suffering, to improve another's life.

And as Rex said, the most efficient way of ensuring more organs become available is to introduce the opt-out system.

celiva
Yes but it WILL be abused. Nothing and nobody can stop that Celivia. Quite easily too I might add

My NSW driver's licence has Donor A on it, which only signifies that I (and I only) agree to the donation of my organs.
It does not say that my immediate family agree with my decision.
When I'm lying on the slab they can apply their veto.

This is the problem at the moment (not with mine I hasten to add) but many families in the past, and probably in the future, will go against the wishes of the donor.
That is why the forms were introduced so that there was a legal document giving permission to take any useful organs.
People are naturally lazy when it comes to asking for extra forms to fill in and this is partly to blame for the shortage of donors.

Would it not have been much simpler to have altered the law and made the ticking of the box on the licence application legally binding?
After all ticking of all the other boxes is legally binding.