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Tony Abbott; PM by proxy.

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Belly,

The polls are spot polls and whilst not carrying the same weight as proper polls all point in the same direction. Try google news there have been several.

Considering the obstructionist politics played by Beasley and Rudd, Labor is hardly in position to cry foul now.

JG has declared this the year of delivery. If she fails, Labor is gone.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Monday, 31 January 2011 3:43:51 PM
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Above all things Belly, I think of Abbott as having no credibility. The constant badgering of the Gov'ts every move is getting on my nerves.
No wonder the govt is gun shy.

The problem is, that this negative banter, with it's emotive and colourful language, now extends across the whole Coalition rhetorical landscape. They're all doing it now !.

It's true, Abbott has infected the entire Australian political landscape.

And I would not be against the flood levy SM, because I agree with opposition's view on this, and quote all the polling you like,
I'd just thank my lucky stars that the Coalition are not in Government in this time of need.

I'm sure the previous Howard Govt would be responsible for the laws relating to insurance's, that allow corporate giants offer worthless policies or refuse to offer flood insurance at all to some home owners in this country today.

How much will industry and commerce expect the taxpayer to fund, for their loss of business caused by natural disaster compared to what the number is of insurance claims paid. This is the comparison I would like to see.

Instead of seeing "how much fat" is in the taxpayers pocket, perhaps Govt should represent it's people more and see how much these corporations reap for doing nothing more than shuffling paper and avoiding the claims of flood victims whilst selling under insurance's.
Posted by thinker 2, Monday, 31 January 2011 7:05:22 PM
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Shadow Minister Most Defiantly, yes that is the word I wanted to use, I look at politics from a different point of view than you.
See good and bad in both sides.
You clutch at straws that are not there, in comparing any past Labor team to Abbott.
You say this year or else for Labor, I agree, but our FINEST ASSET IS ABBOTT.
Gillard right or wrong never quite made it, the gapping wound that Kevin Rudd left frozen inaction and wrong actions took us near to defeat, Abbott saved us, by the skin of our teeth.
The few, very few policy's your side have put up include that baby bonus rubbish, surely the equal of cash for clunkers and any sins you put on us.
Shadow I am far from the first to highlight your one tracked view of politics, I TRULY think you over estimate your ability's.
Abbott, in time you too will understand, rode to popularity on the back of complaining but not having answers.
And with policy's that massaged those who already intend to vote for him but force others to run away, it is easy to be a fire lighter but it takes leadership to win an election.
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 5:50:23 AM
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Unfortunately, nature made a mixture of different personalities in the people of the planet, some are intelligent, some are brilliant and some fall far below any of these. I fail to see that persons of different political parties vary in any way, in both parties are fanatics who image that any decision their party makes, is correct and any decision the other party makes is definetely stupid and wrong, that is why we have so many changes of parties at the elections, and the change is because the people realise the conditions of and in the country is not satisfactory. I would not vote for either or any of the parties and will be pleased when a party starts up with a good constitution which is the conscience of the party, and has the plans for successful future, and all members have to sign that they will honour and obey the terms of that constitution. The existing parties totally ignore the issues in their constitution, members do not even have to know the contents of them, they have no conscience and very little integrity and intelligence
Posted by merv09, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 6:41:20 AM
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Tony abbot and the libs should by all accounts be in power and dealing with this issue.

JG and labor were litterally flogged at the polls, it's just that she would not admit defeat and went to extrordinay lengths to be re-elected 'BY DEFAULT'!

As one poster has said, this is her year to deliver and, if she fails, I doubt I will see another debt ladend labor government in my life. Now that's something to look forward to.

Now as for the levie, I doubt it is so much a case of the people don't wish to contribute, more so I recon it's a case of they simply don't trust labor with thier money. After all, thier track record of spending our money sucks.

Flo>>You are wrong, people on low incomes can own homes.
What you are discribing is most likely less than 1% of home owners in the flood effected areas, and that's being generous. I, on the other hand are reffering to the remaining 99%.

It's a joke to suggest a threashold of $48K and an act of stupidity from an incompitant leader to simply double it overnight.
Posted by rehctub, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 6:49:24 AM
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merv 09 your post says more about you than others.
I find your comment just under mine, an ALP member and activist, you seem not to have seen me say Gillard is a flop.
I have to stop taking that type of comment as worth while, some ideas are not worth the read.
Rechtub, cop it sweet bloke your mob are not in power did not win an election but may well do next time.
And be confronted with the negativity fed to Labor and its supporters, how very sad for the standard of debate.
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 1:10:58 PM
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