Hi Jo (Loudmouth),

It's always good to hear from you. I'm sorry that you're disappointed with the level of debate on this thread. I've stated in the past that climate change science may well be a subject about which many people actually know little but feel they ought to know a great deal. It's therefore a perfect subject for people to give "pseudo" answers which are in line with their broader political opinions. Tor Hundloe points out in his book, "From Buddha to Bono: Seeking Sustainability,"We would not be as worried as we presently are about the adverse impacts of climate change, food security for the poor, water security for all, the continuing loss of biodiversity, and the ongoing threat of environmental diseases if we had the appropriate scientific understanding, if we had the necessary tools, and if we were marshalling them to ameliorate the problems. We have allowed the threats to mount up without fashioning the appropriate tools and seeking real solutions..." Part of the problem may also be that many people have a propensity to discount the future. Many might feel that they won't be around to benefit from a good time in the future - so they want to have it now regardless of the long-term consequences. Don't worry if some people appear in not having a clue - they're still entitled to an opinion. Although possibly not their facts.

And then from Deep Blue, the acme of discursive sophistication: DUUUH.......LOL The so called experts, the tops of the tree, the one,s we all invest in for the answers.........don't have a clue!...LOL. So what are you worth? lol I'll tell you.....nothing!:)

And bug-breath......Here's some high-tec advice form him......

"I agree Joe,it is pathetic. My answers are not satisfactory because I can't seem to understand the questions. I shouldn't even bother trying".

I'll make sure I tell my children that.

See...those that think they understand, seem to be not able to tell us what the big joke is....besides them:) At least the Environmentalist groups shows the human impact and the rest.....well I wouldn't trust them as far as I could throw them.

Welcome to the on line upper level bullies that know nothing.LOL..excepted to make fools of people. CLAP.CLAP,CLAP....you all must be proud of your selves. and lets tell the people that one of us has cancer Lexi...LOL. You are just a joke:)

Check Mate!

Case closed.

idiots:)

BLUE

I rest my case, DB, thank you :)

Now, is there any chance that we can get back to the issues, without the name-calling ?

Global warming is occurring: an 5-cm rise in sea-levels and 0.8 degree Celsius rise in world temperatures, in the last sixty years.

Okay: evidence that it IS man-made, concurrent with increases in CO2 production by industrial activity ?

Evidence that the net level of CO2 would still keep rising even if there were no further deforestation, etc. ?

Evidence that efforts planned over, say, the next twenty years (efficiencies, wind-farms, solar arrays, geo-thermal and nuclear energy, etc.) won't be sufficient to start reducing CO2 production ?

Joe

DB:

"No one can make a fool of you except yourself," was advice that my father taught me many years ago. It went along with the ethos of - you can't be responsible for other people's behaviour, only your own.
So chin up, - don't worry if you haven't a clue - as I wrote earlier- you're still entitled to an opinion. Keep smiling.

cont'd ...

If the world's population does continue to grow we will overshoot, and probably seriously, the globe's carrying capacity. We will then suffer for ages, as will the natural world, until we can reduce the human population and return our ecosystems to sustainable health.
We need to recognise serious overshoot as an inevitable consequence of human population growth and the natural desire by all humans to have a middle-class lifestyle. The only choice we have is how to manage our way through it.

So chin up, - don't worry if you haven't a clue........LOL You just don't get it, do you:) Arse holds are def to day:) The wheelchair champs LOL. and no-one will ever trust you again.

Go laugh that one off:)

BLUE