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What is it we are not getting?

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One of our contributors to OLO recently posted on the theme that “lefties were cultists”. It is worse than that. Cults are an endemic part of our modern social fabric and it is not confined to lefties, although the strong correlation between the two certainly supports this hypothesis.

Of all the attributes identified by the research into Cultism, there are 34 that correlate directly with the AGW Phenomena, just Google “Cult Characteristics”.

Cults are now well documented and understood through modern experience, it is not something you can easily escape, even if it is screamingly obvious to any rational person that you need to. Cults blind people and the deeper in you are, the more blinded you will be. The cultist irrationally fights anything and everything that is a threat to their cult, they are the true Daleks of our planet, exterminate, exterminate! (Credits to anonymous on OLO)
There are many web sites dedicated to helping those involved with cults, one is interestingly called “The skeptic Tank”. They have this to say;

“A great many people are dragged into their religion by their parents and they are brought up believing in a great many absurdities they later find impossible to accept. By the time they're able to start thinking about discarding what they know full well to be a lie; they have expended a great deal of emotional and financial investments and are unwilling to admit to themselves that they have made a costly mistake. Such is human nature.”

They offer a package called “Walk Away”. This, it seems is the only escape from cults and it primarily requires courage. It seems that unless society is able to provide a “Walk Away Package” for warmers there is little hope for them. Especially if, as indicated by the research, people vulnerable to cults are typically those confused, fearful, guilt ridden or suffer self doubt, there seems little opportunity for them to find the “courage to walk away”
Posted by spindoc, Sunday, 16 January 2011 5:26:15 PM
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Quite frankly I find the idea that if you accept the conclusions of research that climate scientists are telling us, that somehow you are a cult member that needs a 'walk away package', ####ing inulting.
It also comes across as a completely hyperbolic partisan piece of BS, in that it equates people prepared to accept the science that is being communicated to us to 'lefties' and that these 'lefties' correlate well with cult memebership. I know a lot of scientists who are not 'lefties' (perhaps some of them are lefthanded) and who by no means could fit a cult member description who are also prepared to accept the findings of the physicists and climate specialists.

This appears to indicate to me that perhaps it is you that should have a good hard look at yourself and the cults of personality that are forming around the 'deniers' 'credible scientists' and blog masters.
Posted by Bugsy, Sunday, 16 January 2011 7:48:41 PM
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Right on que :)

Spindoc, you must have a death wish to post this, watch as the cultists tear you apart lol!
Posted by RawMustard, Sunday, 16 January 2011 7:54:06 PM
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Spindoc, as much as I am a skeptic about global warming theories, I would stop short of calling the followers of these theories as members of a cult as such.

I looked up the word cult on wikipedia :
" The word cult pejoratively refers to a group whose beliefs or practices are considered strange...It is also a result of the anti-cult movement which uses the word in reference to groups seen as authoritarian, exploitative and that are believed to use dangerous rituals or mind control. The word implies a group which is a minority in a given society."

I doubt that climate change believers are a 'minority', do you spindoc?
Many eminent scientists who have done amazing, life-changing research on a range of matters, also believe in the science of climate change.

We cannot deny that the climate of our world IS constantly changing.
What I find hard to believe is that us little humans can have a hand in changing the climate of the world ourselves.

Are the members of the anti-climate-change brigade members of a cult in your eyes as well spindoc?
If not, why not?
Posted by suzeonline, Sunday, 16 January 2011 10:26:38 PM
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I think spindoc should refer to the definition of Denialism.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denialism
Posted by wobbles, Monday, 17 January 2011 12:35:43 AM
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Clear to me spindoc, quite a lot you are not getting.
I could go on all day but it is not worth it.
Your post appears to come from the shallow end of the gene pool.
Climate change is proved by recent events,even the most hard headed appear to know, while denying man brings it about that it is taking place.
FLOODS and DROUGHTS are predicted in the science.
Lets see what else some on both sides but more on the very right fail to get.
History tells those who will listen, all views can be right or wrong.
That change progress and stability come from all sides at different times.
I think comments like those here, Raw Mustards any where, are all the evidence I need to remind me some views are not based on intelligence.
Posted by Belly, Monday, 17 January 2011 5:45:12 AM
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