Paul I remain with Labor but this is far from my first thread expressing my contempt for this awful mob.
I know odds are your mob will increase its vote, a betting man I think it will be your high water mark.
Test me, I think some have concerns with greens this time.
But with out doubt it is Labors worst result.
Over come with confidence the NSW center unity can pull rabbit out and maybe save 50% of its seats I know that to be impossible.
Room exists to debate you on why I will not preference greens, yet until the last federal election I handed out their HTV.
Back to my mob, Kevin Rudd says it all, he is not the only controlling lieing begger in my party,and my faction.
It MUST BE UNDERSTOOD workers doubt the ALP in NSW is even aware who started the party.
We can go on and on but Nifty Nev and run over the ^%$ Bob Askin BENT POLLY'S are not on their own in this Parliament.
Now I believe strongly and forever both majors are close, but because no one will ever govern this country unless mainstream policy's are one they run with.
After Brown it may Be possible to see more interaction between our party's but not before.
After March new factional leadership new directions more say for rank and file in candidates and start of a long up hill battle to rebuild my party,
Federally?
Only thing we have going for us under this leader is the opposition.

Sunday morning and this mornings polling has a bit to say that should be in this thread.
NSW ALP is in the trouble I have described in th last 3 years and more.
80% of voters say the will not vote Labor.
March, just weeks away,an opposition that has not yet told us what it is, has won and election.
I CAN NOT vote for my party.
I have seen public servants willfully privatize public utility's,and not talking about power, tie the hands of its workforce, then say they are not competitive.
Ruled by the yes minister gobble Dee gook , refuse to consider a better way.
We did not elect a government last time we made a train wreck.
2 predictions
1 greens votes will be its highest ever past present and future.
2 within a day of this landslide,one I look forward to, yes it alone can reform my party,some one will taunt me here about ALP NSW loss, one I have spoken of as needed for those three years.

Belly,
I am sorry to see a once great political party, The Australian Labor Party, reduced to what it has become today. The 'true believers' of the past must be turning in their graves seeing what the 'modern day' Party has become!
A little more bad news the ALP can't rely on Green preferences in the upcoming election. With their vote down to say 30%-35% in safe seats even those seats could be lost. Unlike the major parties the Greens determine their preferences, if any, at the grass roots level of the party.
Paul.

Yes Paul, me too, but it will change.
Now remember no defense nothing to say in favor of NSW Labor.
Federally the mess that was Rudd, his controlled decay, inability to get it done has done great damage.
But in every decline a bottom comes,and it is true you can not begin to climb out without hitting that.
Look with me at this truth, your party, Greens is in part a refugee camp from Labor.
NSW will be its best, never to be repeated result.
The young and the old will want seats on your boat.
But majority's, or even near one,will not ever want those policy's.
Liberal and Labor did not wander away from the masses, they followed them.
Middle Australia is not asking for more Socialism, more welfare, it wants its self interests first.
POSITIVE outcomes, this year, Labors defeat in NSW will return the party to its branches, growth can come improvement is the only movement possible, it can not get worse.
Federally
Well not easy, few want to admit the gloss is coming of Julia, yes she is far in front of Abbott, but a village idiot could do that.
Watch Bill Shorten, he is the man who can be what we thought Rudd was, and he will rise rapidly.
I do not see a greens government ever.
But Labors task is to in form, reform, educate its lost members that elections are won by majority's not the few.
Winning back NSW , a state LABOR OWNED is going to be helped only by our best staying and the rest? gone by now or soon will be.
May I say to the young, our future leaders you can do much more in government and you have a roll to play in rebuilding the ALP, the left of center's only chance to govern.

Unfortunately Belly I see the Labor Party as a party full of false prophets. Where is your Messiah going to come from? Is this Bill Shorten the Messiah, I don't think so. There is no Messiah within the AlP, all the party machine can throw up is weak front people like your Gillard's and Keneally's, leaders with no vision, people who are out of touch with the real Australia. Where are your Ben Chifley's and Jack Lang's.
I say now is the beginning of the end for the ALP, it is fast losing its relavence on the Australian political landscape. Labor people in NSW think they are in for a very badly blooded nose come election day, but they think they will live to fight again. Wrong, March 26th 2011 will see the death of the ALP in NSW. Jump ship now before its to late, join The Greens!

Paul 1405 you bring an interesting issue to the front.
Many, within my party/union movement dislike with an intensity my views.
I was threatened,yes true, on saying Rudd would take the leadership and win an election.
Then told I was wrong on saying he was bogged in deep mud he would not get out of.
I however remember the Belly that lived in 1975, the radical ready for war on the streets.
I look back and under stand,we my party,bought about in part its down fall.
You must find out about Shorten, he is no fake, he is the future of Labor.
My party needs the NSW fiasco it needs the coalition with your team,and it needs the trouble that will bring us.
It without change,will get and need time on the opposition benches.
But it is still the party that brings change.
It has to rid itself of wrong union influences,wrong faction leadership and make branches democratic.
But it need look no further than Shorten for leadership and in time, assisted by a government that will not need to tell us its intentions, NSW center unity will rebuild the ALP.
Remember this country has no intention or will to put a true left party even close to in power