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NSW After March 2011

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An election will be held in NSW in March.
Voters can stay home, massive promises from my team, the ALP fear and loathing too.
Yet we are doomed.
A new leader, even if it was one of our greats, Wrann who gave this state darling harbor, under an avalanche of insults and fear.
Carr who gave us more conservation than the greens dream of, national parks future folk will honor him for.
Defeat is still the only outcome.
This election is going to be the worst ALP out come in my lifetime, maybe ever.
Yet it is to be the birth day of a better ALP.
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 3:06:02 PM
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NSW ALP won the last election against all odds.
In truth the opposition lost it Labor did not win.
Questions need to be asked, how did Morris Emma ever win the leadership?
It seemed in the bag for Scully.
In any event the Italian stallion proved to be a rocking horse never quite left the gates.
Factions did strange things, putting people from other factions in place ,giving them power none had ever had, but not letting them use it.
So the rot set in.
Right now I would not give you a cent for factions, even mine.
This is disaster, it truly is worse than that, it is insulting to think last minute pork barreling will change ALP voters back to the ALP.
That pig should have been fattened a year ago.
So why am I not unhappy.
We may see an end to burnt out fools getting a seat, and license to print money.
We may see the intervention of HQ in to branch choices be a little more in favor of rank and file.
Every party faces these bad times my beloved ALP will come back, it always has been the party of change in NSW and it needs these hard times, it slumbers and ignores its own voters and its stated aim to govern well.
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 7:15:11 PM
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<< Carr who gave us more conservation than the greens dream of… >>

Yes Belly. And how long was he in power?

Ten years.

What was that thing that he was always on about?

Oh yes, population growth in Sydney.

He was a unique politician in that he was an arch advocate of much lower immigration and population growth in NSW and Australia, and especially in Sydney.

He stood up to the manic pro-growth merchants in the big business sector, the economics sector and the predominating political support within his own party for these sectors…. and he was PM for a very long time, which can only mean that this message strongly resonated with the voters of Sydney and NSW.

Since leaving office, Bob Carr has been very vocal about the need to reduce population growth and embrace a paradigm of sustainability in Australia.

Maybe there is a BIG message there for NSW Labor.

I agree with you that they are history at the next election, if they don’t do something radical.

And the radical thing to do is ……to follow Bob Carr’s lead, and advocate a regime of genuine sustainability in Australia, with a much lower immigration intake (progressively lowered to net zero over the next few years), so that Sydney doesn’t continue to suffer never-ending urban sprawl, increasing pressure on all manner of infrastructure and services, etc, etc, and can actually have some hope of arresting the decline in the average quality of life for its ~4.5 million residents.

If NSW Labor could just see fit to do this, they could harness enormous support in time to rescue themselves at the March 2011 election. Of course, they’d have to work hard at convincing the people that they were genuine. But it could be done.

I’m sure Bob Carr and Victorian Labor MP Kelvin Thomson would only be too willing to help them, along with a bunch of other sustainability advocates.
Posted by Ludwig, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 9:56:08 PM
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Bugger bum poo… that should have been:

< and he was PREMIER for a very long time >

rrrgh!
Posted by Ludwig, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 10:25:41 PM
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NSW Labor should have a long and deep meditation over these comments by Kelvin Thomson, Federal Labor member for Wills, as to why the Brumby Labor Government lost the recent election in Victoria:

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/brumby-too-cosy-with-business-labor-mp-20101214-18wsz.html

< the ''heart of the problem'' was that Labor had sided with business in backing excessive population growth.>
Posted by Ludwig, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 10:51:40 PM
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Ludwig glad you share my view of Carr.
Have you seen Darling Harbor? while I took nifty Nevil Wrann on, still do, he was the lone person who gave us that wonderful area.
Sorry if Labor Got its best to lead and run in every seat they are gone.
A blind man on a galloping horse reading my comments as he past could see that both saddens me and fills me with hope,that Labor can learn from its sellout of its people and self.
NSW is in for drama voters would elect Kermit the frog and the cookie monster , may not even know the Liberal policy's,yet some will condemn me, for saying it as it is.
My NSW power bill,this month was the lowest use in two years 10% down on this period last year.
30% up in price.
And no extra use 200% of what it was in 2002.
Thanks to?
Posted by Belly, Thursday, 16 December 2010 4:58:28 AM
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