TBC

'So, "the drug companies are cashing in on these people on a much larger scale" given you say that, presumably this is your seal of approval for Mumbo to be trotted out.'

No it does not have my seal of approval or disapproval because I don't know enough about it. What I do know is that evil spirits exist and the chief evil spirit blinds unbelievers from seeing the gospel. I also know that for you take the position of an expert on exorcism is laughable. You don;t appear to know good from evil so I doubt whether you know how to be rid of something you know little about.

We are Unique <"What year or era are you referring to? Back in the 70's after research was done into Manic Depression [now Bi-Polar], all of the common symptoms and treatment of those symptoms excluded shock treatment and exorcism"

I am working as a nurse with mentally ill patients currently actually, as opposed to those who still believe in 2000 year old 'stories' from the Bible! What era are you referring to We Are Unique, if you believe in exorcism fairytales?

In actual fact, I never suggested that current medical practitioners used exorcism to treat their patients, but they certainly do continue to use shock treatment for Bi-Polar patients quite effectively.

What I was trying to say is that often, mentally ill people will search for 'answers' as to why they feel as they do- a terrible torment in their minds that is very difficult for anyone to cure or manage.
Many will mistakenly believe they are 'possessed by demons'.
The fact remains that if the bulk of these people stayed on their medically prescribed medication, they would not suffer from these delusions at all.

Many mentally ill people do not like the side effects of these psychotic drugs, and go off their medications. Most of the time however, they are far more ill than if they had continued their medications.

Yes, there are some mentally ill people that have had no suitable treatment to help them, just like we can't cure many physical problems yet- like some cancers.
That doesn't mean we should go back in time and try archaic exorcisms on these poor people. Again I ask, do we hear of all these so-called exorcisms that didn't 'work'?

Oh dear runner, "What I do know is that evil spirits exist", no doubt with the same 'proof' as that you ascribe to your gods?

Thinking they exist, is not the same as knowing they exist, old chap.

Good from evil eh?

Well, when it was good for xtians to burn women because they were witches (or were thought to be witches more like), I suspect the notion of evil was different to today, when that is frowned upon, unless you are a xtian in Africa, where it still goes on.

When you have good xtians in the USA calling for Mr Wiki to be assasinated though, is that all that way from burning witches to please the gods?

I doubt it.

Then again, is our economic system evil? Or is it good?

Does the string of political lies we endure count as 'good' or 'evil' if it is done, as we are told it is, 'in the national interest'?

A very tricky question runner.

Did someone give it to you, or did you think of it yourself?

I have never believed in Exorcism and am against the rubbish, particularly in relation to patients in hospitals and nursing homes.

I asked you a general question Suze regarding the following line you posted the other day;

"I have witnessed many physical abnormalities such as seizures, that have wrongly been thought to be caused by demonic possession for many years".

Being tired, I thought you were referring to medical staff misdiagnosing seizures or bi-polar symptoms.

Be careful jumping on the defensive and accusing people of what they have never believed in Suze.

Suze

By the way Shock treatment should be banned [with the damage it has caused patients over past years] in favour of the effective Bi-polar medication.

Thanks for updating me on this issue and will discuss it with a nursing administrator girlfriend of mine when catching up next.

All the best and enjoy the exorcism thread.

TBC

'Well, when it was good for xtians to burn women because they were witches (or were thought to be witches more like), I suspect the notion of evil was different to today, when that is frowned upon, unless you are a xtian in Africa, where it still goes on.

When you have good xtians in the USA calling for Mr Wiki to be assasinated though, is that all that way from burning witches to please the gods?'

Good to see that you don't really believe in moral relativism. The number of unborn babies slaughtered makes those burned by the deceived 'Christians' in Africa a much smaller issue.