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exorcising mumbo from our society
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Posted by one under god, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 4:24:44 AM
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We are unique I think you know I have great respect for you.
And believe it or not for much of the rules of Christianity,rules to live by. You can find much good in any creeds rules. But even you,like my self in my days of belief, show a well known bias. It is that the Catholic Church is the Antichrist. Alive and active for century's this idea is both based on concerns about worshiping a Pope and the mother of God. Pedophilia within the Church adds to the legend. However it too has its roots in paganism. Mayans killed in the name of God,long before that even we all did. Fear drove it as it does today. WAU it is no extra load, carrying the belief we are accountable for our each and every action our selves,that we should never harm an other unless no way exists to avoid it. God, a great walking stick on a long trip, but what a great world it will be when we invent one that fits todays needs. One humanity one fate one direction. Keep our crutch for those who need it but let it be blind to color and race. Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 5:04:35 AM
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EXORCISM is not 'mumbo' or 'jumbo'....it is a Biblical and Spiritual reality.
It is not, however "a rite" When Jesus was confronted with demonically possessed people, the Demons were separate from the personality of the individual. They spoke through the person. Mark 1:24 “What do you want with us, Jesus of Nazareth? Have you come to destroy us? I know who you are—the Holy One of God!” 25 “Be quiet!” said Jesus sternly. “Come out of him!” 26 The impure spirit shook the man violently and came out of him with a shriek. PUBLIC REACTION: 27 The people were all so amazed that they asked each other, “What is this? A new teaching—and with authority! He even gives orders to impure spirits and they obey him.” Attempting to make this a 'rite' is plain unbiblical. It was a power encounter between Christ and the demon. I anticipate encountering just such darkness at the Mind Body Spirit festivals and have seen the beginnings. Posted by ALGOREisRICH, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 5:13:16 AM
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http://www.mentalhelp.net/poc/center_index.php?id=50
There you go, Boaz. I guess they did not understand epilepsy in biblical times. Posted by Yabby, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 5:45:27 AM
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epilipsy...does not qualify as possesion...yabby
possesion involves more violent... more..injurouse activity and sure signs Dumbness..&..deafness:..Mk..9:17,25;..Lk 11:14 Mt..12:22 Mk 5:1-20..Living in cemetery..& mountains,..*naked, able to break shackles and chains, constantly crying out..and cutting self..with stones. Mt 17:14-18;..Mk 9:17-18..a lunatic*,..very ill, often..falls into fire..& water,.. a spirit seized,..*suddenly screams,[obsenities/curses].... THEN..throws into convulsions,..foaming mouth,..grinds teeth,..mauls him,..stiffens out... Jesus was..accused..of having a demon because: 1. of perceived paranoia...that others were going to kill him: Jn 7:20 2. of making perceived..irrational statements:..Jn 8:48-52;..10:19-20 3. "He has lost his senses"..his family charged: Mk 3:21 (Note:..they may not have blamed it on a demon) 4. he cast out other demons: (probably a vicious rumor created out of jealously): Mt 12:22-25 E. John for not eating or drinking: Lk 7:33 F. Apparent supernatural ability to predict the future through fortune-telling: Acts 16:18 G. Able to perform false signs:..Rev 16:14 H. Preaching of false doctrine & different gospel" Gal 1:8; 1 Ti 4:1-2; 2 Thess 2:8-12 i would add an irratrional fear of religeons or faulse belief in a hudgmental god [and yes those accusing others..of being demon possessed playing with snakes..and talking in tongues...those obsessed with what others do]..those seeking to control others..not hurting anyone Posted by one under god, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 6:28:33 AM
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Phases of Demonic Possession
Demons do not walk to up to a person..and say, "Hey! Do you want to be fully and completely demon possessed?" No, they find a weakness..or a door through traditional family behavior..(iniquities) or through the reckless behavior of the individual..(personal sin). The person's active free will..[do do only good]..must be breached. They usually seduce a person..with something simple and almost innocent...unless it is generational sin. It is kind of like the camel with his nose in the tent. It starts out with just a nose...Then, the next thing you know, the whole camel is in the middle of the tent...All the camel needs is a gate. Demons like to solicit your active free-willing participation. It is more of a kill for them...It is sport to them! vile so l;oves doing its vile [especially on the faulse chtistians] thats why...they should never*..cast stones ALLWAYS..LOVE GOD..[good]...and love neighbour Let's say that you profess..to be a 'born again' Christian. You might even be in the ministry..as a pastor or an assistant pastor. You are really committed to serving the Lord and your church. The love of God is all you think about. You attend church every meeting...You read the Bible and pray daily and you even spend special time with the Lord... just get them..THINKING on sin and evil gets in.. Let's say,..just for argument's sake,..that you are counseling women for the church...Then all of a sudden there is this certain girl you are counseling,..a new believer,..*that seems to understand you...*more than your wife. That's it! Right there!..The Camel'..nose..in the tent! You were supposed to be counseling her..but she ended up comforting you...What happened?..How could this be? the gate to the carnal self..is five-fold:..sight, smell,..sound,..taste,..and touch... A demon can come in..through any of the five gates by tempting the guard...[good]..at the door...If the guard allows the demon in..then the demon has authority..to move about freely. [its only claiming..'his own' a faulse deciever...temptation] You gave him..this authority by giving up your free will..to stand and rebuke the temptation. [took the tare...for wheat]..[judged..others...and was wrong..in even judging] Posted by one under god, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 6:43:44 AM
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which is much like addiction...
those [you]..with these addictive personality types...are at risk to any addiction..be it booze drugs or even love[addiction]...or hate or blame addiction
anything but taking personal accountability
its funny and sad you see the bipolarity of a sister
yet fail to see the same degree of obsssesive two mindedness..in your own anti-religious zealitry
but such is the nature of your anti religious phycosis
[in other words it is simply stupid to try to clarify your phycosis]
your addicted...[obbesessed by anti-religious hate]...as much obsessed..as one desiring to take drugs...or needing their next love fix
you can never realise the same symptomology
expressed by your sister...applies its burden upon you
your obesession..has a genetical burden
sadly this is one of those cases...that passes accross generations[untill your..religio-obesessive genes are bred out]..its one of those cases..where prayer cant help
anyhow...blue pot
i will leave you in your blue funk
failing to see how your as bad as the blue cross
take your meds
stop reading articles that will set off your phycosis
i can but feel sympathy...but must allow you
the right to reap your harvest...your genetical one eyed obesession reaps..
the triggers..will only become more in quantity and number
and i can but ask god to forgive those..who know not what they do..or cant see why they keep on doing it..
i cant reply further
without enabling..your compulsive obesesion
thus wish you well..in ignoring your igno-rants