It's too much trouble and social reprucussions to prove an innocent person innocent - the name of the game is to get the best plea deal for you they can, and let you suffer the consequences.

Not to be unfair to the poor attroneys - in this witchhunt evil atmosphere, attorneys who win for evildoers are made to suffer. Unless there's a lot of $$$ in it for them, it's not worth their while to 'win', since it's a 'win' for a guilty person - ALL accused are guilty, remember.

My son's attorney won not one but TWO huge daycare cases in the '80's, where 14 children accused Kari Sortland of molesting them. He won two aquittals for his client, which is why we chose him.

Six months later, Kari Sortland was gunned down in his front yard on Halloween night, the killer never found. I's sure my son's attorney has spent a lot of time looking over his shoulder, waiting to be next. (We didn't find any of this out until AFTER out son went to jail for something he didn't do.) This case can still be found on the internet.

SOhopeful is an American organization that may be able to offer some hope or advice. There's COSA, I believe. Don't give up, and please, don't be foolish.

My son was clearly and cleanly innocent - too many people in places of power need these convictions for career advantage. They don't care a whit about guilt or innocence - just convictions.

Good luck, and God speed

onlyone, once again thank you for your words of hope. I am so sorry to hear your son story, sorry and at the same time very upset. onlyone dear friend till 3 years ago i respected women, respected and admired them for been able to work and at the same time lookout for their children and their family. As of now i have nothing but hate in my heart. I know it's wrong, not all women are the same, it is unfortunate that few make this world we live in such a bad place to be. There's only one thing in my mind right now onlyone, I WILL not go to jail for something i didnt committ, much prefer death to jail. If you only knew what happens to men going to jail for having raped a woman you would understand my feelings, being innocent or not it doesnt matter, a man jailed for rape, will be sodomised, assaulted, some times even castrated, teling you that I am very afraid is not enough dear friend, I am in fact terrified at the thought of what might happen to me if i am convicted. As far as God, my dear friend he has abandoned me, i was such a believer, never a day went by without me praying for the poor, the oppressed, and anyone who needed a prayer, i am no longer able to pray or to believe there is a God. Help? I have tried so many avenues my friend, always found that the door is shut for me, one thing you are absolutely right about is the money issue, i know that if i had $50,000.00 to spare i would be set free.

Maxximo, I've gained the impression that the staunchest defenders of the kind of bias which you refer to are men.

I have the impression that they have a patronising view of women - wanting to protect women, wanting to feel that women are delicate flowers needing equal rights but not really up to the rough and tumble of the real world. They refuse to see wrong when it's done by women and hold men ultimately responsible based on gender.

Some women take advange of this, others reject it.

You posted a link earlier to a document on the MRA website, think of the great work being done by Sue Price and the other women providing support through that organisation.

Likewise on these forums some women are really serious about equality and reject wrong done to men to advantage women.

Don't blame all women for the actions of some - just as I don't wish to be blamed because some men are scum.

R0bert

Maxx,

RObert is right. I am a woman, and you won't find a stronger defender than me.

Keep in mind, many women have been genuinely victimized by men. Two wrongs don't make a right.

I deeply feared my son would end up hating women, but he has not. He was put through three years of 'therapy', where he was forced to confess the crime. Actual exchange between him and the 'therapist': Q: How could I have raped this girl, and she's still a virgin? T: "You must have a small dick." -This from an adult woman to a 16 year old boy.

I am quite aware of what awaits those in prison. I considered putting a bullet through my son's head, rather than have that happen to him. He's a small buildt, very handsome young man, and it's unthinkable what would have happened. It was 9 years ago this happened, and it still brings me to my knees in fear. He spent a month in jail after passing a third polygraph showing him truthful when he said he didn't rape her - they said it 'proved' he was dangerous and in denial. He was beaten up for being the only white kid there, and they didn't put his broken wrist in a cast, it healed wrong. We were told he was lucky this is all that happened to him, and I know that is true.

The God you have been praying to may or may not have been truly God, but if you allow yourself to stop and listen, you will find out what God truly is. Read the story of Job - everything he loved or cared about was taken from him, but he did not lose faith or become bitter.

The book of psalms is almost entirely about false accusations - I never knew that until now. These things will slowly reveal themselves to you, if you don't give in to evil. You are facing a monstrous evil right now, and playing into evil's hands if you turn from God now.

Please trust me on this.

Robert, thanks again, you are absolutely right I know it's me who's wrong right now, hopefully it will get better somehow.

I have no right to judge and believe that women are all the same and I am not but I repeat, the very few women taking advantage of the legal system do not achieve any good at all to the women equality they are still seeking, there's nothing more to seek Roberts, in this country we hear times and times over a Federal Government Campaign entitled "Australia Says No" (to family violence and violence against women) at one point during the campaign a woman say "maybe it was my fault" then a VOICEOVER, firmly say "it's NEVER your fault" I am absolutely convinced that the jurors, when deliberating my case wil have in their mind that phrase, after all it's the Federal Government saying that could they possibly go against the Federal Government View on the matter? NO they can not and they will not. Robert, as you can see I don't really have much to look forward, I have in fact nothing to look forward.

onlyone, your words of hope give me some encorouagement and some hope.
What you son suffer it's not human it's evil and only an evil person can do that to another human being.
I am considering going public right now, I will approach my lawyer and see if it's legal for me to do so, I must do something for myself and for any other man falsely accused of rape, I need to stir the public, everyone must be aware fo what is happening to me, most importantly it can happen to anyone of them tomorrow, maybe by stirring the public opinion someone decide to come to my rescue and make sure to set things right, maybe the legislators will open their eyes and think of the possible consequences of their actions, someone once said it's better to see 100 guilty persons acquitted and set free than 1 innocent person wrongly convicted, I've always agreed with that view, and agree with it right now as never before.
thanks again onlyone.
P.S. since the very beginning of this I wanted to talk to the accuser, I wanted to talk to her in front of her lawyer or even with the police present, I wanted for her to tell me in fron of those people that I raped her, I wanted to hear it from her, till today no one has given me that opportunity, no one has allowed me to ask her that question, why? I have now asked to take a polygraph, I am sure will not be allowed to unless I pay with my own money, we'll see what happens if I have to pay will get the money somwhere, I just need to convice someone of my innocence.