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Fabians, Evergreen Review, Grove Publishing and the US Counter Culture.

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Most landmark cases which seriously undermined American morality occurred in the late 50s/early 60s it seems to me. I was watching a doco called 'OBSCENE' on foxtel and it covered the influence of the Grove Publishing house and the Evergreen Review, which hailed from Greenwich Village.

Interestingly, the publisher Barney Rosset, a communist, studied guess where ?

"The New School for Social Research" which was founded by.... the FABIAN SOCIALISTS/(Progressives)

Keeping in mind that the Fabian window 'says it all' about their intent and strategy "Wolf in sheeps clothing"
http://mommylife.net/archives/2009/08/obamas_fabian_s.html

It is therefore no surprise that Rosset spent the rest of his life attacking and undermining American values and morality with his sleaze factory-the Evergreen Review.

Some notable court cases of the time.

"HOWL" poem by Alan Ginsburg
"Lady Chatterly's Lover" D.H Lawrence.
"Tropic of Cancer" Henry Miller.

All published by Rosset, who by his own confession "loves porn and specially the smacking maids type"

He published material "which turned him on" (his words in interview)

So, we have a continuous link between Fabian Socialism, US counterculture and Progressivism which has in turn filtered down from the academic institutions where the 'hippies' became lecturers to us now.

"The inevitability of gradualism"

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Posted by ALGOREisRICH, Monday, 6 December 2010 10:59:49 PM
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So, we have a continuous link between Fabian Socialism, US counterculture and Progressivism which has in turn filtered down from the academic institutions where the 'hippies' became lecturers to us now.

"The inevitability of gradualism"

Yeah...and the problems what? Cant be any worse than Christian sheep in wolves clothing can it:) Its been proven that no-one from the higher ranks can be trusted.

So what your alternative........capitalism?...........that's why the worlds in such a mess in the first place.

The last famous words from a dieing tradition.

RIP

BLUE
Posted by Deep-Blue, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 9:03:27 AM
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Dear blue...you are quite entertaining mate :)

Capitalism and a free market are the best ways to arrange society.

The problems come when the market is not FREEEEE..such we have with the big 4 scumbags.(Banks) They are a cartel.

The problem with freedom...is that it allows scum to operate, but they can only go so far until they are stopped by public and democratic reaction. Thus we now see the government at least making noises about boosting up Credit Unions etc.

But anything less than freedom is Tyranny which no one really wants unLESS they happen to be on the Tyrants side or team.

Progressives (Communists in drag) would have us believe that our 'freedom' is in fact tyranny and oppression. (See this essay)

http://www.marcuse.org/herbert/pubs/60spubs/65repressivetolerance.htm

I might be oppressed...but it's by the scumbags, not the system.
I can actually get free from that economic oppression, and live a pretty happy life. Under socialism/progressivism.. there is only a dark, hopeless highway to HELL.
Posted by ALGOREisRICH, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 9:16:09 AM
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Al........Progressives (Communists in drag) would have us believe that our 'freedom' is in fact tyranny and oppression. (See this essay)

Again? Whats your alternative?

The political evolution is like a serpent that twists and turns with a fundamental tang....which all sees an opposite view to another. I see you have great concern for the current position in which the world that presents itself, (as a fire breathing two headed dragon)........and I'm finding it hard to see (other than just to have a little chat online) how this is going to come to light any time soon.

You come across as very complicated individual with far to much time on ones hands and I feel the storm in the teacup is nothing more than self entertainment. The essay points out a basic understanding of an individuals fundamental thinking's. The western culture is not under any immediate threat as far as I can see and there is alot more powerful people than us in control that keeps a fairly well good balance throughout the world.

Some see this as a threat Al.

http://tinyurl.com/2awj5y6

BLUE
Posted by Deep-Blue, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 10:01:02 AM
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How socialist ever got labeled progressive is just another perversion of language. Progressive in the eyes of a socialist is usually regression into immorality and social engineering. They often pervert science and somehow think being immoral makes them wise as shown by the 'gay' marriage debate.
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 10:10:02 AM
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To a hammer, everything looks like a nail, eh Boaz?

>>So, we have a continuous link between Fabian Socialism, US counterculture and Progressivism<<

I'd be a little more convinced, if you didn't rely so heavily on that window that "says it all".

>>"The New School for Social Research" which was founded by.... the FABIAN SOCIALISTS/(Progressives) Keeping in mind that the Fabian window 'says it all' about their intent and strategy "Wolf in sheeps clothing"<<

http://mommylife.net/archives/2009/08/obamas_fabian_s.html

"The window contains the image of two men--founders of the society--hammering the globe (from the top down no less) with sledgehammers--imposing their will on the world so to speak."

("So to speak." Don't you love that?)

The words that hover around the smithy - "remould it closer to your heart's desire", "pray devoutly, hammer stoutly" - tell a different story.

Here's a quick "Smithy 101" primer for you.

http://www.simongrant-jones.com/history_of_the_blacksmith.html

The blacksmith's job was not to "impose his will" on anything. The image is nothing more than that of a skilled craftsman at work, fashioning something useful from raw material.

So, from one false interpretation to another.

"More ominous still - the wolf in sheep's clothing"

Bernard Shaw designed the window. Bernard Shaw was a playwright and an acute observer of human nature. The inclusion of the wolf in sheep's clothing was closer to whimsy than a cold-hearted political statement of intent, as Caroline Townsend would have recognized.

"It shows Shaw, Sidney Webb and ER Pease (secretary of the Fabian Society) helping to build ‘the new world‘. The figures are in Elizabethan dress which was to poke fun at Pease who evidently loved everything medieval."

http://www.webbmemorialtrust.org.uk/default.asp?page_name=The%20Fabian%20Window

"The people grouped at the bottom were leading members of the Society, most of them members of the Fabian executive, with on the far left, HG Wells, who is seen ‘cocking a snook‘, which evidently was a reference to his unsuccessful battle with Shaw and Webb for control of the Society."

This window is about as indicative of the Fabian agenda as the elephant is indicative of the Republican.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/4622759/Rampaging-bull-elephants-on-heat-controlled-by-female-love-calls.html

Although, that might explain Sarah Palin.
Posted by Pericles, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 12:47:28 PM
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