Well...FINALLY.. the truth has come out!

Many of us have been banging on about 'Climate Change/Global Warming' is a 'socialist plot to redistribute wealth to 3rd world countries'

Of course we are written of as 'lunatic right wing morons'.... but we have stayed the course.. done our research and hung in when the mockery and rididule was like a tsunami.

NOW...we are VINDICATED! By who?

I could say 'Glenn Beck' here..and GB has done a wonderful job of exposing the profit making (for the wealthy socialist elite like Gore and Strong etc) wealth re-distribution (applicable to all others not in their 'club') of everyone ELSE's money..but hey.. GB is just another 'right wing hack'....right?

WHO then?

Why...it's ->Prof Ottmar Edenhofer, a German economist and co-chair of the U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change's (IPCC) Working Group III on Mitigation of Climate Change.

What does he say? oooh..this is almost too juicy for words.

http://thegwpf.org/ipcc-news/1877-ipcc-official-climate-policy-is-redistributing-the-worlds-wealth.html

"First of all, developed countries have basically expropriated the atmosphere of the world community. But one must say clearly that we redistribute de facto the world’s wealth by climate policy. Obviously, the owners of coal and oil will not be enthusiastic about this. One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. This has almost nothing to do with the environmental policy anymore, with problems such as deforestation or the ozone hole."

THIS line bears repeating:

"One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy." (Edenhofer)

Any comment?

sorry i stopped listening to their spin long ago
it was mainly economists...[one need only look as far as the wong penny...who now deals in finance..[or ruse garnoh..[ross garnesh'e]
or all gore

thatcher was in the focus group
that concieved it when it was called global cooling

its a tax by any other name
pay to polute...with the burden being not tax refundable..for the poor
but a business tax deduction..for the rich

it was raised because govt needed a cash income[when told about the upcomming banker collapse..by securities traiters..needing their next cash cow..enron..and many others love these govt cash cows

the face of green jobs...[to install the junk]
and the increase..of the cost of power/gas etc
to pay for others to get free power

and thousands of dollars of solar cells...[on their roofs]
and then a nice cash back..[we the other consumers are coping increases to pay..for..THEIR infastructure...lol

we have been royaly conned...decieved...and lied to by wong numbers
and its a grand..SCEME..that just keeps on giving[to the elite];in on the scam..as opposed to the sukkers paying for their ignorance..bah

if you get govt money
somehow it must go back to govt
loans..would have been better..

as it is now..they get their night time power...FROM the dirty coal stations...for free..via infastructure..we are paying for...

at least make them pay full price..
not suck on our infastructure for free

glad nsw dropped the 60 cents buyback
govt needs to stop serving special intrests
in qld..cheaper power was aLLWAYS a lie..but we bought the spin

time..those wholier than thou greenies...paid back..that their masters decieved..into getting..[the freelunch]look at spain..who now its spent its peoples cash...got no more greenjobs

As an AGW agnostic I reckon people in both camps just cherry pick the 'evidence' that suits their own worldview.

The truth probably lies somewhere in between.

Only the ripest cherries get picked.

It's a logical fallacy to say global warming is akin to a communist plot, as the author of this thread implies.
S/he seems to conflate and confuse ‘politics’ and ‘science’.

Of course different countries have different ideological agendas. This is the reason the UNFCCC has ALWAYS debated the policies – WHO should act, HOW they should act, and WHEN they should act.

The ‘environment’ doesn’t care about politics, and only some politicians (really) care about the environment. The UNFCCC meeting in Mexico will demonstrate this again, sadly.

Dear Pelly... I tend to agree...that the 'truth' does indeed lie somewhere in between. But I suggest that given the blatant and clear ideological/economic/political/left wing bias in anything U.N. the position inbetween is in fact much closer to the 'Nothing to worry about here' end of the spectrum.

The astute observer of history, will know that this scam has been tried before, and by the same ideological interests.

Bonmot... do you agree

a) The quote is accurate/reliable (from Edenhofer)

"One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy."

that:

"But one must say clearly that we redistribute de facto the world’s wealth by climate policy."

He is openly admitting that the real deal here is about what his words actually 'say' ?

If not..how would you explain his words?