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Drivers License as Identification.

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Security clearances are a lot of fun too these days - the information required to pass a clearance to work in some government positions (and private ones contracted by government) includes:

Various forms of identification
Travel history
Employment history including explanation for 'gaps'
Marital history/relationships/sexual preference/affairs
Bank statements
Expenditure and financial records
Information about investments
All details about close relatives
Contact with foreign nationals
Contact with anyone living overseas
Drug/alcohol use
Gambling
Online psuedonyms, Facebook etal, chatrooms
Numerous character and work references
Copies of bills and evidence of place of residence since birth (in some cases)
Psychological testing
and; a security assessment interview.

The list is endless and quite intrusive.

We are becoming an overtly big brother society and the irony is security clearances, while purporting to minmise risk as regards corruptibility, cannot ever guarantee confidentiality or suitability to access information.
Posted by pelican, Sunday, 28 November 2010 1:21:28 PM
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Thanks Belly,

From memory a driver's licence is worth 40 points,
as are a Passport or an original Birth Certificate (not an extract).
These are often termed "Primary Documents".

Depending on who you're dealing with, you can make up
the 100 points with "Secondary Documents". These
include such documents as signed credit or debit cards,
Shooter's Licence, utility bills, mail addressed to you,
rates notices etc.

You're right about the RTA. Besides the Police, they are
the only others who have the right to demand to see your
driver's licence (but only if you're actually in charge
of a motor vehicle). Neither the Police or RTA can legally
demand to see your licence if you're just walking down the street.

It seems to me that the question of Proof of Identification
is an increasingy onerous issue in the 21st century,
sometimes ridiculously so. It's probably only a matter
of time before something like an Australia Card is
introduced, but that won't solve all problems. Any
document at all can be forged, as with the case of Interstate
Truck Driver's Licences as you indicate.
Posted by talisman, Sunday, 28 November 2010 1:28:54 PM
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A bar-code on the forehead.
It's about time we had a national ID . But for some people it's all too much.
The defacto ID is your driving license, not every body has one.
The truck license is a Australia license now. Stops people having too many.
Doesn't stop having a car license in every state.
Privacy is all important, don't know why.
Your details are all over the place.
Posted by 579, Sunday, 28 November 2010 4:11:01 PM
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Thanks all, have told hold my hand up here I am near to the point of eccentricity here.
30 years ago my bank teller stole $1.800 from my account.
My fault, as I left the bank I got rid of my bank card receipts, in the banks rubbish bin!
About that time I stopped buying on credit, bought only what I could save for, in cash.
And around that time 1978,a Friend, family actually, wanted to help me buy a country home I was renting.
Asked me for,, you guessed drivers license all bank and card IDs.
It took me a very long time to get out of that debt, and I had to renew all those documents.
He took out a loan, but kept it.
I spent this week getting my things done, and while showing a JP my photo copy's and the real ones , she demanded ID!
Well she had every thing except my drivers license, so about to reach in my pocket and surrender my DL when her colleague said this is Allan, I have known him for many years, that was in a chemist shop, that has held and filled my prescriptions for 24 years.
I have more.
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 28 November 2010 4:26:47 PM
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Yes the new Medicare card is going to be the Aussie card reborn.
And yes I was a fool, it hurt, for a while putting more than I should in to repaying those debts but it was great to finish.
Why do I dislike this ID form?
Why did I do it not call police? we do have black sheep in some family's.
My privacy is a concern no one ever can defraud me my pins are in My head not on paper I am constantly aware of safety issues.
Do not keep cash in my home or car, just the bank.
But maybe it is time we talked about the death of privacy,we the honest suffer all types of indignity because of criminals but they will always exist no matter what is done.
That chip, the one Christians fear, it would at least be between you and the machine and unless hand is cut off fool proof.
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 28 November 2010 4:36:02 PM
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Usually when I get pulled up for random breath test/hassled for driving an older car, and they ask for my license, I say I'm not sure where it is (and often I genuinely dont). So far it has never been a problem. In order to get a QLD license, I had to provide a paper birth certificate that could have been easily dodgied up with a computer, because my NSW plastic hologrammed photo license wasnt considered adequate ID... So I reckon a lot of the time it is just petty ego-driven garbage.
Posted by PatTheBogan, Sunday, 28 November 2010 5:04:25 PM
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