You did something once, you know you did.

It comes back now and again and you recall every proud moment of it.

It is your favorite memory of yourself in action.

Many may have seen it or it was done quietly without fuss.

It might have even been while you were still a child.

It could have been funny or deadly serious.

It may have affected just you, your family or many people.

Others may have even disapproved and still do.

It could have been a physical thing or more spiritual, maybe emotional.

It might have taken a moment in time or you gave much of your life to it in the end.

It may have resulted in you receiving an award.

It may not have been what others thought your greatest achievment or best moment but it is the one you now recall that tops the list.

But you did it, and I’d really like to know what “It” was.

I would also like to hear your 'it' if you don't mind Piper.

I don't have many years to my name, but the proudest moment to date would be when my partner and I brought home two dumped one week old puppies to care for.

It is indescribable to be able to give these little guys a helping hand, to keep their hearts beating and their tummies full and watch their personalities form into two beautiful creatures that deserve nothing but love in life.
Fostering abandoned animals is something that makes sleep deprivation so worth it.
These babies are so pure its heartbreaking.

I share this to encourage all acts of kindness in life, to encourage everyone to help another life when they can. Eliminate all the 'what abouts' and go for it.

The best thing I ever did was to humble myself before God and ask Jesus Christ to cleanse me of my sin. It caused a number of family and friends to disown or become embarassed by the 'good' bloke they knew. Thankfully decades later they can see the fruit of that decision as opposed to the fruit of living a godless life.

you cant have the good...[without the bad]
trouble being we have so much...'its'..which bit..is 'it'?

could be..the moring i was woken up by the birds in longreach..at 3 am
[one tree..with near 100 willywagtails having a cooroberie...and me the only witness?]

or seeing the sky...abouve muscrave park...with a really amasing blue-hue...

with golden-clouds...rippled into 5 lines..[four fingers...palm/thumb..etc in the shape of a golden hand][or rather the fingerprint/ridges..of a masive hand form[shape]..near sunset

or the time i delivered the elders-letter to the queen..[and was arrested..at chogum..2002]

or the time i deliverd...the letter from the 7th angel..to john howard
[or when i was shouted lunch with pro-hart]...or the time i was speared..in from of old parlement house[2002][on good friday...and only got a blister..on my left hip

life is full of..'it'..moments...
like the time i was transported instantly..across time and space[twice]...or watching the birth of my daughter...or raising my grandchild....building my house...breeding my beasts

life is just too full of it
to pick just one

maybe the best one was the rainbow gathering
or just others kind words...or putting up a post..
that seems near perfect...giving a snappy retort at the right moment

being forgiven...a stupidity
or not being forgiven..when you were right

or just posting..without having to think of anything..but the post

A lot of you blokes need a good cleansing, Get on your hands and knees and ask to be exercised from your sins. I have never had any sins, so i don't have to go down that path. Some take their chances with the devil and some take their chances with exterestrial beings. Other people are quite normal.

Hey Nic, that was very cool and saving two little lives and investing the time, energy and money into moving them forward is lovely.

Mine was when I was younger, just a quick moment in time and more about reactions than anything else. Half way up Ayres Rock, back when climbing it was still something tourists did. An elderly lady ahead of me stumbled and fell; I leaned out and caught her as she went past.

I would have liked to have seen the birds in the tree OUG. One perfect moment.

579... I think you strayed into the wrong thread honey.

I always wondered if those that chose their God later recalled the very moment Runner, thank you for sharing.

The Pied Piper,I will not talk about what made me proud how about happy?
I took early redundancy, felt pressured to do it, did not really want to.
Spent too much got too generous and felt lost.
Went fishing 12 hours a day for two months up the coast.
Loved it, let me forget what I had given up.
Returning home every minute of a long trip reminded me I was going to be broke soon.
THEN home letter box full, deeds to my house I had paid cash for much more AND a letter had won second prize in the lottery $10.000!
Last letter?
Offer of a job, the job I was made for union official, never looked back.

Most people in modern secularized society have little or no experience of the positive value of rituals. Yet there are certain spiritual traditions on the planet that mean a great deal to some people. They fortify their spirits, reminding people of their oneness and form some of society's connective tissue. Things like blessing
newborns, puberty rites, marriage, elder wisdom, and memorial services
to name just a few. One of the things that I am pleased that I managed to do is find the grave sites of my grand parents and erect
plaques to mark them for future generations so that they would not be
forgotten. "Lest We Forget."

I just happened to stop a power saw long enough to hear a cough & a cry whilst fitting out a boat. As I looked up I saw two little boys going under in a canal. Luckily, I got to them in time.
That felt good.

Happy is all good Belly and exciting, wow what a day. Go on what was the first thing you bought?

Nice Lexi and the perfect moment to feel proud of yourself, something to show respect and help the next ones that might come along. My mother has travelled far and wide doing similar and one day I may see her handy work.

And two children still with us because of Individual who I bet some parents always thought of rather fondly.

Well ok TPP while away over spending and being too generous I was with my best mate and cousin.
He had been doing it hard and I helped him and family out.
Along with that I gave him a loan, first thing? rang him telling him to forget that loan.

good point belly...!
never lend...but if you got it...to give
then give...[i learned...to read between the lines]

anyhow it is as it is
better than it was...but..not as good..as it will be

darn im hearing music faintly stiring my soul
we built it and they didnt come...oh well we got a feast of plenty

its much like making stone soup
everyone brings one thing
the more that come..the more we did bring

but then we get..those who dont eat meat
or only eat the mana..others did reap

im reminded of the 2 de miracle..where jesus fed 4000...who believed..it a sin..to eat with unwashed hands
thus did eat...'all they wished'

because they refused that..offered to be eaten

What was it, is how certain individuals should not be allowed here as all they do is annoy and aggravate others, if they cannot respect others, i find it strange that their nasty(ignorance) post should be left here for others to read. It does not bring any good to anyone to read their nonsense.

What was it makes you the person you are today. Whatever you have done, right or wrong. I can not believe the one who believes they have never committed any wrongs. Think I'm mentioned it somewhere(not sure if it is on OLO), please go to the media, because you will be the reborn savior.

We all have of memories of our accomplishments in life, what brought us a sense of satisfaction, pride, accomplishment.

What was it for me... hmmmm, a long list. Track record would be a trouble maker, saving animals when I was a kid. I used to have to beg my dad to allow me to bring back strays.

I challenge the rules, because I know better. I am not going to keep my mouth shut, and watch others suffer just because of rules. I never have, and I never will.

What it was, it is you. That is what it is. You make a difference, because you can. You make a difference because you care. It was when you let your natural protective instincts take over, that was IT.

Oh my :)

In my case I was on top of a C130 hercules to replace a rather long wire of an HF comms antenna. As I was scrambling along the top...I came across a little "ring thing" embedded in the skin of the airframe.

Without thinking, I grabbed and pulled it, and "lo" a round escape hatch dropped out, and crashed down below just missing a loadmaster by mm! I still cringe when I think of that... There was one other incident much more cringeoworthy..but I was just the bloke marshalling the Herc. I have the signal "cut engines" and as the turbine wound down.. suddenly a Prop 'fell off' and crashed onto the Tarmac.

If ever there was a day when I was VERY happy NOT to be the senior NCO in charge of the Engine Change which had just occurred...it was that day. By the way, the look on the pilot's face as he spun around in the cockpit (having just landed this plane) was...*priceless*

When fb was new, one of my childhood friend said:"FB is EVIL", he wouldn't use it. Just 2 weeks ago, he found me(haven't seen each other for 4+ yrs). I asked him, whacha doing here?(He lives in sydney now, successful 31yo). He replied something to the point of:"if u can't beat em, join em."

I'm just rebuilding my social network. Even when I was not active on fb, I still monitored what was going on in my hometown, my ex-company, and friends. Thus, when I catch up wt any of them, I know more about everything then them. Hahaha. Also, fb is a great marketing tool and u can advertise ur causes there for free! Free entertainment the whole day and if I need to find out something immediately n hv friends around the world who have more knowledge then me, all I hv to do is communicate with them for a few minutes to get a solution.

I do my work there helping ppl who are hurt picking them up and making them see a different point of view. I used it as my dairy. There is evil everywhere unfortunately, and in the past I got very hurt by it(in court) because there are always phychos out there. If we take the necessary precautions, the bad can always be avoided.

OUG, may I ask why u have lost ur drive to make a comfortable income.(I'm working on getting my online business up). The net is such a great tool, I managed to study online businesses(help set one up and run it) using tools that can analyze all businesses. I saw how some companies started from nada, and within 3 yrs became worldwide wholesalers.

Somebody asked me bk home what I am doing here, making money? I replied:"money can be made anywhere in the world, as long as you know how to" this resulted in some jerk of a wealthy worldwide business supplier contacting me and irritating me. He kept bothering me even when I politely asked him to leave me alone after I found out he had ulterior motives/intentions.

I told him after he kept irritating me:"tk u for and example, u hv all the money in the world, yet, u still can't get what u want." Money can't but happiness, it can buy physical objects, that brings u a certain amount of joy, pays the bills, etc.

I was with the aviation industry as well, plenty of accidents happened, do u blame the management or urself as you choose to joined them. I was happy working there but boy did I despise mgmt at times. All the rules they come up wt yet they don't look after the well being of their employees. It's a lot better her as you have all your labour laws to protect u.

I'm on my emails all the time. My questions weren't fully answered, no worries.

I'm on highspeed broadband now coz I always exceeded my usage. It was pure torture after having both mobile broadband and broadband back home then having to limit my usage to less then 7gb, no wonder I went down. :p my package is with dodo and its a 2 yrs contract that comes with a phone line as well. 69(lol) a mth. But the amount I get back(through studying, chatting, conference calls, research and getting counselled and judged here) is sooooo worth it :)

What it is, is why are ppl tracking me on the net, why has this system treated us so unfairly?

What it is: OLO has made me question my fight. The lessons I have learned here is priceless, and I appreciate all the member who take time out of their busy life, to express themselves here(coz when I start on my books I will refer quite a bit from here, don't worry, I won't steal any of your writings, just your knowledge)

Now I question, is making a promise that important that I hv to live this way? Should I give up even though we like it here because of the system? Is this worth it? Is the constant hurdles and challenges here worth it, coz now all I want to do is start working on my books :)

And yes, when u get labeled as a narcissist(not getting the spelling right), It does make u feel more important and you can enjoy the lighter side of life:)

E.T. cannot phone home because she can't find speak n spell anymore, but she's got newer technological devices she loves that allows her to do that ;p

I hate lists. I never watch 20-1.

Every time in life has it's place and you cant order them.

I've done many good things and a few bad things. Some of the bad things I've done are far more important to my life than most of the good things I've done.

If something were to be so good as to stand up on top of a list, well, it would be too private to share with you lot. It would lessen it's value to me.

But, so as to not dampen the spirit of the topic, oh who am I kidding, it's what I live for!

I have been in immediate threat of death once. I believe it was the strength of mind trained by abuse of drugs that actually gave me the tools to calmly bring myself to safety. I was lost 50m underwater inside a ship wreck with zero visibility (Some idiot kicked up a whole heap of sediment) and struggling with the effects of nitrogen narcosis. I had to control my brain out of panic and the urge to laugh hysterically at my near empty oxygen gauge, control my breathing to conserve air, and wait for sediment to settle, then navigate through the corridors to get out and resist the urge to fin upwards to avoid compression sickness.

Then again I have also believed I was under immediate threat of death for no good reason before too due to the influence of drugs. I was also arrested in Bolivia, but that was nothing to do with drugs, and the cops stole my travellers checks. I counted it as a win all considered.

Things like that are often interesting to others, and I like to entertain where possible, but other much more mundane things I am much more proud of. It wouldn't be any use telling anyone such things as they wouldn't have the frame of reference to appreciate them.

I did fly once as a child, and to this day nobody believes me.

Belly you rock, and of course I already picked you for a person that would first think of someone else.

Al that was really interesting that what comes to mind for you are the times of fright, the first one probably mixed up with a bit of guilt? A little tug on a ring and something big happened, it’s kinda cool.

Houel, although I think there are no wrong answers and having a near death experience would probably stay with one until a final embrace death experience. I also wanted things that others might have thought mundane. Was that time underwater the very first thing that came to mind?

Jinny I read your posts, I don’t think you mentioned your “it” at all…?

I wonder if people do have lists and if the things that shine out all come with a similar description… when I did a good thing, when I did a good thing for another, when I had a moment with my god, when I was frightened but got through it, the time I saw something and no one else did….

I remembered mine and then other memories followed but I was very strict with myself, I wanted the first thing that came up when the question formed in my mind.

When you think back it is a little surprising what was the "great" moment.

I was a navy fleet air arm pilot. Looking back now it was not getting my wings, or even the first landing on an aircraft carrier that stands out. It was the day I got the telegram telling me I had passed the 3 month selection process, & been selected for training that I remember still with a thrill.

I raced cars, & it was not winning the Bathurst 100 in a formula 1 Brabham Repco that stands out, it was the day I was offered the contract to drive the car for the season.

I did some sailing, & the most memorable moment was at the end of my first single handed ocean crossing. This was before civilians owned satellite navigation equipment. This crossing was navigated with a plastic sextant, & a transistor radio to get time signals.

When after 1100 nautical miles, the right bit of Oz turned up, in the right place, at the right time, it really was cause for a celebration.

When I settled down the kids had horses. Friends gave us a 9 month old colt they had breed when they had to move to town. They could not stand to sell him to just anyone.

We raised, broke & trained him to be a be show jumper, which my daughter rode highly successfully. He also sired some beautiful foals.

Now over 20, in a paddock by the house, it gives me great satisfaction when he whinnies to me when ever he sees me, & comes over looking for a pat, [or perhaps an carrot]. Although he loved going out, I don't think he minds it's 4 years or more since he was ridden.

As you get older, what is important does change a bit.

Houlley
You crack me up sometimes.

"I did fly once as a child, and to this day nobody believes me."

That fits in with the drug thing.

Assuming again

Superman:why doesn't anyone believe you flew? Joke:do u still wear ur undies on the outside and walk around with u red cape? NDE changes our whole perspection of life,because ur survival instincts take over,proven in 9/11.The ones who survived chose to go fishing instead of work. The trap ones survived for hours before being rescued, but it doesn't always work like for the ones in the planes.They tried tho

Substance abuse does the stranges things.It can mk a person believe that his bed is calling him to snuggle back into it, that sometimes and octopus with tentacles under the bed is trying to choke him. That everyone is out there to kill him. This I got from an MD? So the person dat threats sick people is sick themselves?

UOG hasn't answered either. And I've got too many:

- jumping of balcony ledges on the 17th floor when I was in my teens coz I locked myself out.
- having my sibling n dad till now laugh at me coz I was struggling trying to complete my triathlon swim(they were the lifeguards in boats)
- having a nerved damaged injury(which the doc screwed up even more) cure without listening to a word the specialist said nor touching any of the drugs he prescribe, and then seeing the shock on his face after I healed it my way. Oh, and still managing to work n hide it from my Co.
- almost pulling a tent down on x'mas with 30 ppl under it.
- having 2 mental and emotional break-downs in 2 months be coz I am that dumb I believe in every BS dat comes out of ppls mouth.
- being able to understand how to eliminate the word stress out of my limited vocabulary. So that even if I don't have $ for a week m still happy :)
- having 2 beautiful kids n the best parents.
- ooh, this one tops it all: getting arrested!

Top 20 list are good coz u don't need to do the research on certain things that much.

I should have said in my last post it was not pride that made me mention my mate/cousin.
I was happy to help in hard times but in a way he more than repaid me.
Within a year he was to die,, on the beach we fished, wife and kids in the 4x4 and a mate, police officer trying to help.
Repay? I received his little foxy pup Skeeta, had her for 5 years,spoke about her loss here.
Animals dogs number one, are my mates.

Yeah but Jinny one must come to mind first... humans rarely have simultaneous thoughts, I was looking for a highlight. Try catch it before the other thoughts burst the dam.

Your ”it”. Your favourite.

Hasbeen is right, I don’t think 10 years ago my “it” would have been the same. Hasbeen yours are focused on achievement? A goal reached after working for it I think.

Pelican I figured perhaps Little Houel came across some pretty mushrooms once. Your “it” Pelican?

I still have my dawg Belly, 15 years old now and completely deaf and blind... quality of life decisions are looming. The decision might become my new “it”.

But Belly I expected people to have pride in their “it”. I was looking for pride or a feeling of something well done. I think you said they weren’t your “It” moments though but certainly ones that made you happy and I am happy to settle for those.

Ok my dear flute charming player that tries to fix the wrongs of your world, the way you believe.

I still have to say I can't pin point on one memory. But what is most important to me is making others happy. That is my it. That makes my day tonnes better, getting a smile from others. making them happy. I have always been this way. I cannot change:born dis way.

The other its:
-when i wanted to(for some one else) won the reward in a company of 4000 employees then.because i knew i could.

-having the knowledge i have but having to suffer for it being the way i am because i don't care what others think about me. i mean come on(how many more time am i going to get asked for ID here, just irritates me).

-now it's huge trust issues that's why i behave the way i do here, coz i don't trust no one no more apart from myself and my loving parents.

-this is a good one, having after defending other for human right, risking loosing my good paying job and having a showdown that was known to 3 countries, i won. I still think about that one.. but he's too powerful. besides, he's done a lot of good as well.

-the usual boring stuff of helping others, animal, life, bla bla bla

-haha, having phycho's trying to bring me down.. yes.. that is an acomplishement. too many stalkers and crazy ppl out there

-having the gift to learn and accept, as we are, all life forms, there is always a reason. I know why i had my past, i understand it now.

-being labeled as a nutjob(when others are the ones with mental issues), judge before being known. I didn't want to tell, because I didn't need to. i already stated, my story is a sad, pitiful and plain dumb story.

Why i write here is because i'm trying to make you understand, what i understand. Because knowledge should be shared. Thanks all :)

What was it i cannot explain here.. because it takes to long and i am limited with my time spend here.

But i hope you all who read this realizes how much caring and sharing makes a difference. Life is a mystery. If you're interested go read my older post. I am still trying to find someone with the same views as me. I am still searching. In the mean time, I do what i have to do, when i have to do.

I think about my past, and everything seems so clear now. I get joy out of making others smile. I always have, always will. But should i still fight this battle? My FB is such a great tool.

We get caught up and lost in our own thoughts and believes. Who is right or wrong, only we can decide. The world does not evolve around you, we evolve around the world. I saddens me to see how much some humans have stop caring. Especially since I decided to move here.

dang.. that's too depressing.. write about something else.

Friendship: you all have build up a kinda friendship here, it's obvious to me, some are love/hate, some are good. but it is friendship, you just don't realize it.

and i appreciate your friendship.

Strong bonds have been created through the internet from my knowledge. It takes time, effort, trust, care, and love. I know of other like me, who have made sacrifices to strangers that the have never met. There is always a risk. It is always your choice.

i am learning, i am reading n understanding. I cannot come up with ONE IT. Everything happened for a reason. Different time of the day i focus on different things. Why I am seeing a psychiatrist is because I wanted to. I want to get a diagnosis of what happened to my brain. I don't need to get cured. but i cannot shut down, like a computer, i don't have the power off button.

so many things means so much to me. I relate everything to my past. When you share, your secrets, you don't realize what you are doing, you don't realize your words means a lot to others.

This thread, I see and feel what others share. They share a good lesson. It is that, that makes us individuals. It is great, for me to read about your lives, because all it does is to teach me about humans. I try, as best as I can, and I hope to make a difference. That is all.

What it was, doesn't matter anymore. What matters is what we can do, and what it IS.

We learn from out past mistakes, we all want things to change(not complaining, i had a great day, got tasks done)> but the difference is what we can do for our children's future....

Jinny you gotta stop and take a breath honey.

I’m having trouble keeping up with what message you wanted to get out here.

You can’t decide on one “it”? One does not shine out as the moment you can recall that really meant something?

The first one you mentioned was saving animals. Nic also named saving animals and how it made him feel.

Something particularly human about most of the “it’s” so far. Except for Houel flying maybe.

Emotions revolving around an achievement, making a choice, saving another, staying in control, making a mark in history, seeing something no one else saw, a stroke of luck.

Al stands out for me, because I think he got a fright, all through very human actions but his moments that stayed with him were ones that could be shared with most of the species on our planet. Startled and shocked because something unforeseen but big and loud happened.

My theory – well I don’t have one I just find it fascinating.

I was expecting “the moment I first held my child” , “my father taking my hand one day when I was scared”. Maybe they will still come, the “it’s” that a cat or a bear could also share.

Nurturing another animal isn’t something other animals do, a uniquely human kindness I believe

Piper you should look up a TV series called The Street.

I think you're pushing a bit hard here girlie. People have private lives and it's a bit presumptuous to expect random's to spew their guts. Also as I said before, you just cant list things in hierarchical order.

Oh, I remember a story. I went rafting one time with this group of people who I had been travelling through Africa with on a truck tour. For some reason this chick on the tour took had taken a disliking to me and she led a few of the others to also be pretty bitchy for most of the time. (Looking back I reckon she wanted me to pay her more attention, but that's just my take on it. Maybe I smell).

Anyway, after going down 20 odd rapids trying to stay in the boat we were all exhausted by the end. So then we are told we have to carry all the oars and boats up this massive hill with a soft dirt trail in 35 degree heat to get back to the truck. Nice end to the day.

About a third of the way up she was really struggling carrying her gear in front of me, and even though she hated me and everyone was struggling too, I for some reason decided to carry all her gear and mine up the rest of the hill for her. I know it means I'm a walkover, but she was struggling so much and she was quite young and small and it seemed the right thing to do at the time.

This was the end of the 2 month tour and I was never to see her again, but on the way back in the truck I saw her gossiping with her friends and I overheard this guy say 'He's a nice guy man, I've been telling you that from the start of the tour'.

Piper, If I may interject here.

I'm a she, I figured that the spelling would have given it away (Nic as opposed to NICK) but apparently I'm wrong lol.

You're not the first to make that mistake...perhaps Nikki would have been the better way to go..

ah well.

Houel:” I overheard this guy say 'He's a nice guy man, I've been telling you that from the start of the tour'.

Hahaha, Score. Had a similar thing, guy I didn’t like grabbed me and threw me by my collar backwards and stepped forward to take a Rottweiler and a Doberman attack on . He never got hurt as his steal capped boots took them both by surprise. It is a weird weird feeling having to rethink your judgments in a heartbeat.

But he may have been like me saving the old lady... reacting rather than anything else. Yours was more a full on act of kindness and she probably had a long time to let that sink in.

Is The Street what was coronation street? I think I have watched one whole episode my entire life and that was over 10 years ago or maybe more.

But I did want it in order, first thing that came to mind. Top of list. Dammit!

I had another one but not sure if it was a moment or some kind or chemical imbalance. Going for a walk, looking up at trees and hills beyond and everything got very bright and I got this very pure feeling of “happy”.

Oops sorry Nic, I get it a lot too since TPP is usually thought of as a male character. I kinda like it as most online folk appear to be a bit more direct in what they say if they believe they are responding to a male.

Nice story, Houellie...some people take a little longer to work out than others - you're one of them.

Nic and TPP...I know exactly what you mean. Don't know why I chose Poirot (although he's been lots of fun). I once started a thread asking OLO members if they thought it made any difference whether they thought they were talking to a male or a female - most responded that it made little difference, although I think it does to some extent.

TPP: is it fair for u do judge what do don't know? Nothing is wrong if I have lots of its. Holding my newborns in my arms? Why state the obvious. All mothers know that. Btw, u do a great at fishing :) I already stated before that u were 95% wrong about me initially.

I have to be very careful in my movements on the internet and wherever I am. After relocating 3 mths ago, I already hv mental cases on my back here. I just want to be left alone wt my kids. But they will never stop.

The its are usually proud moments of our lives, gestures of kindness, raising above other, protecting and standing up for the less fortunate, battling wt what live throws in our path. They should all be its, for me they are. What you believe, is not what others believe. When u give back to life, the joy and satisfaction u get, u know, I know, how it feels.

Those who hv good hearts, intentions, will have a great life no matter what, because they practice the right way to live. Doesn't mean if someone is bad, we have to be worse. Revenge and jealousy is such a problem.

My it today: realizing dat my emotions controls my health, and if I let it take over, I will suffer the consequences.

No it's definitely not coronation street:-)

Each episode is a totally different story. I think their synopsis is 'Ordinary people in extraordinary situations'. It's quite gritty and real life and well acted.

'Going for a walk, looking up at trees and hills beyond and everything got very bright and I got this very pure feeling of “happy”. '

Sounds great!

At this club once I closed my eyes, and I saw myself think. Really. It was all these colours and lines speeding along a highway inside my head. Hard to describe.

Then this other time I got home at 6 am and I had this vision of an American Indian guy and he was moving his mouth but I couldn't hear anything he was saying. He was a bit see-through, and I was a bit scared but I was also quite excited by the whole thing. Wish I knew what he was trying to say.

Oh and this other time I was staring at this coke bottle cap on my bed and a blue flame came out of it. Then I started to actually control it and I could stare really closely and make it get higher, then relax and make it simmer down.

Agreed, a male "image" does attract a more direct response from other posters.

I have found that some people respond slightly more honestly and I suppose more abrupt when they think they're talking to someone of the same sex. I made the mistake of sharing that my partner is a fellow lady lol, I don't get as many head on challenges when I post an opinion now.

maybe because I came out and revealed my gender in the same post.

Too much to handle!! walk away.

Or it could be between the ears, I don't know.

Anyway, sorry to distract from the thread...continue :)

Jinny I feel like you're on defense a lot of the time. I don't see how you have been judged in this thread..nor am I attacking you right now so please don't feel offended.

It seems to me that your mind rarely rests, you have a lot going on and that is understandable, but I think the purpose of this thread is to get the reader to think for a microsecond, and share the thought of happiness that reaches your conscious thinking first, not the one that means the most, which obviously there are too many for most people to choose.

The thread seems to serve a purpose of giving joy to the poster who responds, it is for you to feel good not just the people reading it. You state the obvious because it isn't about what is obvious for everyone else. It is about you. One spontaneous thought of joy.

Your it for today is great by the way.

Maybe it isn’t fair of me Jinny, I don’t know if I did it this time. I don’t care if I am seen to be fair or not. Who are you to judge me unfair? :P Not a serious question, I'm all good with being judged too.

Most mums might not have that, giving birth was all good and breast feeding, first steps, first words… they are wondrous moments for me but never got to the top of my personal list. Maybe this is because my list of first steps and first words and amazing moments with children is rather long now.

I’m not sure you can name that peoples “it’s” are the proud moments although I did expect some pride to be associated with many of them.

Some people give and receive no joy in return and maybe they weren’t looking for any.

They fully lied to you Poirot, try as we might once a confirmation of gender is made then responses change and you are also open to accusations from the gender police on both sides. I’m guilty of it, I am nicer to females. Can’t help it – one of my unfair attributes maybe.

Oh you should have waited Nic, it would have been more fun in the middle of an argument about gay rights or something to come out with that info. Or did you? Yep this thread isn’t about anything other than being able to enjoy an experience someone else had and sharing one’s own. Although I did consider maybe a horrible moment could be at the top of someone’s list.

Houel you are a freak. Sorry, gut reaction. Wonder if your brain should be studied or if you are in tune with things outside of normal. You promise all this stuff happened while straight?

Never heard of The Street.. will go hunt it down.

'You promise all this stuff happened while straight?'

Only the flying.

But I was only about 5.

I wouldn't waste a big one like that on any subject, I took a level headed approach to some gay talk and got treated like a homophobe especially with a name like nic) and then BAM! take that...it ended the discussion too unfortunately. It was childish to bait but who doesn't enter a controversial discussion without something up their sleeve.

I will be honest, the first thought that came to mind when I read the initial post was one of regret. Something that will stay with me until I die.

But you were all 'thought of joy' and I didn't think it was appropriate to spill the beans online.

The it does not hv to be a happy memory.

HB:may I ask wt ur flying experience, was in mental or physical? The world flyin can be defined in a few ways. When I close my eyes and focus(since I can remember) I see billions of colourful pixels swarming around in circles. When ppl r in their subconscious state of mind, the focus on the messages, that's why some musicians hv great songs.

TTP: I don't tk offense, already learned how not to this week. Any chance someone can start a thread on the right ways to handle hyper active children wt behavioral issues? I agree wt wt u said about how u handled the child.

Nicnoto: I thought about it, still not one, but this it came to mind the most in the last few hours:when I was 4/5, I thought about death, when I was laying in bed at night.got so scared I cried and when down to look for my mom, seeked comfort in her arms, and cried for a while before she made me feel better.

Another on that comes to me a lot now is when I look up at orients belt, the same stars I looked at growing up a lot, they are further from here, but still the same question. What is the purpose of my existence?

I hope it's not raining where the happy golfer's are..
Gays are such good ppl.

They hypo or bloody active? Just park up and enjoy them acting like little fruit loops. Wear them out with big walks and physical games. Give them warnings like “dinner is nearly ready”,“10 minutes until bed” so they don’t freak at sudden announcements. Let things wind down; don’t stop things suddenly if you can help it. No sugar, not just junk food but no refined sugar like white bread and stuff.

Gays are good people, all of them without exception? You make me smile Jinny you honestly do.

You are pondering your existence… I would suggest bourbon immediately.

And death as a child, haven’t had that one come up before even with kids who had barely escaped it.

Nic it doesn’t seem worth hanging on to that regret. But if the moment affected you, did it change how you thought about things or an attitude you had?

Houel, I am pleased to hear you were a straight 5 year old. Flying I can believe but how was the landing?

When I was 8 I thought I could fly too. My brother and I were playing superheroes and I jumped off a small cliff on a beach only to badly twist my ankle and couldn't walk for a week.

I thought by 8 years old all pelicans would be flying..?

:)

TPP, heh heh :).

Don't do that to me. I was halfway through swallowing a mouthful of hot tea which nearly ended up all over the keyboard.

I didn't think I could fly. I just did fly, but only the once, then couldn't do it again. I levitated over a gate, and slowly came back to ground. Believe me I was as amazed as you'd think. But it happened and I don't care what people think I know the truth.

Yea, don't do that.. we can't afford wasting money new keyboards when we already have a fictional one.

TPP: back at ya.. u've got some sense of humor as well. I'd recommend this book as a past time(if you hv time): http://shop.ebay.com.au/?_from=R40&_trksid=m570&_nkw=The+New+Feminine+Brain
I need suggestions that is not out there yet. Have tried everything. Their like the mother, so I don't expect any less from their performance. Do plenty of exercise(which hypes them up even more). The younger one hardly sleeps already.

The other threads going on are targeting each other again. What's wrong with them. Here's more fun.

Hey we all wanted to fly as kids i reckon. I remember clipping towels to my shoulders are pretending i was superman. Kids now do it still.. haha. Lucky for me I didn't try to be a pelican tho. I did eventually fly and it was a great experience, learn plenty from it and consider myself very lucky to have those memories. The plane going trough turbulence, airpockets, getting free roller coaster rides and having to keep a straight face while watching everyone else on board SCREAM!

This is so worth watching, bother about the initial ad at the start tho http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihfieZBWT_E
Respect! He is so good at what he does. Ahh.. what are time outs for...

Houellebecq: Good on ya! maybe you should try that again soon :)

It: fighting for my life for the first 3 years of it. born sickly(healthwise). My dad saved me each time.

Soz Pelican. :P

You downgraded flying to levitating Houel. What was on the other side of the gate? Could be like Hitch Hikers Guide and for a minute there you forgot you couldn’t fly. And quit pouting of course we don’t believe you.

Maybe just expecting different from them will do it Jinny. Only child I’ve ever had who acted hypo in my care would do so 20 minutes after their Ritalin was given to them. The rest were little balls of energy like normal children are. If you have a child whose sleeping pattern is disrupted it can be a problem of habit.

The children had moments when I think about it, one moment they would tell everyone about over and over. Some weren’t great but yeah for their brief time on earth most had a moment that was huge in their minds. Praise really sticks with them, the time they did something but it is the response they appear to cherish.

My daughter had one that wasn’t true, me running across a school field after her in my pj’s. From about 6 years old she’s been telling that one very specific memory she has stuck in her head, never happened.

Mine was a strange one. It seemed minor at the time, but the words of a disabled guy raising funds in my local neighbourhood keep coming back to me.

I was in Year 12, at home studying for my final exams, when one of my brother's friends asked me to look after her dog while they were moving house. The little fella kept escaping, it seems. When the doorbell rang, I answered it and the charity guy gave his spiel about raising money and, as I told him to wait while I went to get my wallet, the little dog sprinted outside. I chased him around for a while and got him inside. Then my elderly neighbour (who was bringing in the groceries) took a spill and dropped a bag of cans. I asked the poor guy to wait, helped her up and picked up the cans, came back and got my wallet. It must have been the man's longest house call ever; I reckon it took a good 15 minutes. I gave him what I could, being a high school kid working on Woolies pay. As he left, he smiled and said: "You've got a great big heart. Don't ever lose it."

Sometimes, I think I have lost that heart, but his words come back to me clear as day. I think that's why, since moving into my largely indigenous "ghetto" neighbourhood, I've had something of an open-door policy. I have let people in and given them tweezers to get splinters out of their feet. I have given drunks glasses of water and lifts to the bus stop. I have driven a disoriented, intoxicated and elderly lady a ride home (and a sandwich) at 2 in the morning. I have hidden a young pregnant woman from her abusive boyfriend until the police came.

I've also done a lot of bad stuff, and a lot of things that don't correspond to that "great big heart". But when his words come back to me, they spur me into action. In a sense, it's not what I did, but what he said.

I love Hitch Hiker! HB, u did fly.. coz dat is wat u believe.. don't listen to wat the rest say. I flew plenty mentally.. it was so much fun and memorable.

TPP: LOL, it amazes me how a child's mind works. They can tell lies over lies, disappointing but true. I try not to react, but I know the have the genes. I can't help wanting them to be prefect. They get plenty of praises tho, it's just that I have high expectations for them and I want them to know how the way the world works. I learn from mistakes, and I practice them on the kids coz I don't want them to suffer the way I do. Better for them to suffer from mom's critics now, then when they get out in the real world i reckon. Can't wait till they grow up a bit so I can sit an enjoy a decent conversation with them. Mine have nightmares, and get upset, because of the past. But i know the tricks to pick them up, and do the best I can as a mother. I hope they grow up strong, i hope they never get hurt, I can only hope.

The its that are important will be the good things you have done, that you did without expecting anything back from anyone/thing. That is what makes you different, that is what is important, that's why you remember them.

it is: helping the elderly because we are more capable, others because we can.

when i go bk to nature, everything is forgotten n pure joy comes to mind when i focus on the veins of the leaves, the pattern on a bark, the different insects and their beauty, the silence apart from nature, the moss growing on a rock the fresh air. That is a big IT

TPP: Please don't bring the discussions here into another thread. It's not fair for the other readers. I have never said you are not happy. Are you? only you know. I just state facts of my view on life, and it's merely my opinion. that is all, whether or not others want to read it, is up to them.

I can see you care a lot that is your it. maybe you need to grasp a hold of reality and understand that you cannot change everything. If we all had magical wands, maybe we could.

In the mean time, while you do the things that means the most to you, don't forget to do things for yourself. don't forget to look after your needs.

as long as you know you have put you heart and soul into making a change, whether or not you succeeded of fail, goes back to: u tired your best. some worked, some didn't. can't change that. just have to accept it.

How about another thread: what is the best way we can leave our mark in our lifetime? My dad always used to say he wanted his ashes scattered back in the ocean so he goes back to nature. lately he changed his mind :P. He said he wants a buddist funeral(he is not buddist) because he can have a tomb stone that we can all go give our respects to.. NONSENSE... love him too much, but sometime he's just so full of C**P

I don’t know what that one is Otokonok, it’s sort of a moment of praise or recognition. Someone was watching your actions and judged who you were. Wherever he is now I am thinking he’ll be pleased to know he got it right.

Jinny they will be in their 30’s before a decent conversation will be had. And that’s if you’re lucky.

Two weeks ago the phone rang; my son was hurt down the road and an ambulance on its way. Over the phone the message was it did not look hopeful.

Got to the scene and he had already gone in the ambulance, the police officer I talked to there I later found out could not even look at him, he was such a mess.

In the emergency room I found him lying in a pool of blood, his right hip not recognizable as one anymore and a huge gaping wound in his side as well as many other injuries, broken elbow, sprained ankle, road rash etc. Clothes cut off and saturated with blood.

He’s fine now, but for a moment, just one, all I was desperately thinking was if he was happy until now, because he might be leaving.

Mother is god in the eyes of a child Jinny. Your criticism will hurt them the worst.

TPP: am sorry to hear. Don't see how you can related to my kids. I've been brought up disciplined(no one in our family ever had the chance of that as a teen), so have my kids. If you hv read what some of the other poster share about upbringing and discipline, maybe you will 'get' me.

My only regret with my kids are when I chose after 3 years of bringing them up, to work because i couldn't handle reality, and thus, i have the behavioral problems, because I did wrong.

I can only imagine the pain of a mother having to see her child in that situation, and i hope i never will have to. i hope he gets better and will be more careful next time. i must say, i find the children here a lot different then the children i am used to. i reckon that is an influence to mine as well.

so this was your it 2 weeks ago...

I enjoy my kids as they are. i don't hv to wait till they turn 30, that's just a big bonus.

Houellebecq,..some things are just wasted...in sharing them
i levitated once...[only a few years ago]..but the instant i tried to figure out how i was doing it...it stopped

i think its left brain...right brain...logic is the killer

anyhow i can still do it in my sleep..[dreams]
but somehow..the left brain logic..prevents its returning

clearly...after doing it..the first time
you convinced the right brain..it couldnt have done it
and never again did...imm not sure it's a victory...but such is minds conditioning..[for us all]

there was a famouse levitating saint
the sceptics said..she was just a great jumper

asomehow i tend to feel sorry fotr those needing to explain everything..[filter it though their unbelief/diss-belief..left brain- logic]

i too am amased about peli-CANS not flying at 8 years old
but then logiclly speaking...old pelicans...must learn..the left brain logic thing too...[by the same measure..though...i would not encourage...any child to try it]...

they are so..
TOO..left-brain..{minded].....
so young today..it seems...a deliberated plan

not sure if people know..about the pshycic..accupuncture point
egsactly..under where we got that tb shot...as children

[thus..the scare tissue...disipates..any pshychic-possability..in our generation]..i still think it was done..to nullify some prophecy or other..

UOG: You're not staying on the thread. How about starting one up about analyzing(OVER), and explaining yourself, and the whole universe? What is your IT? At least the others have taken the effort and time to share theirs.

Who here has watched Earthlings? Jeez, what a downer. Alot of you characters are in it. There's hitler, pelican(i thought of your flying story and just had to laugh), sexist, racist, the rest of the 'ist' basically going back to speciesism.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earthlings_(documentary)

Great.. looks like somebody's is not happy with me again. Why are there so any laws?

Jinny you’re driving me nuts with your assumptions and all the “not getting it”.

The moment thinking my boy was going to die wasn’t an “it” moment for me or has not become one so far.

He could not have been more careful, it was not his fault.

I was hoping the story would make you think about the fact we can lose them and that our jobs as mothers can be about making them happy because when you stand there and you think they are about to leave you then suddenly what matters is whether or not it was all okay. Our criticism can hurt them the worst. Our smacks wound the deepest and our praise mean the most when they are little.

We might not be left as the star of an “it” moment yet we can fill in a lot of the between times for them.

Waiting until they’re in their 30’s might be more about your definition of “decent conversation”.

OUG you need to feel sorry for me, I over analyze everything I want to know the why of everything and everyone. It helps; when a child arrives I don’t have the luxury of a history with them. I need to watch and talk to them and get to know who they are in as short a time as possible.

It was never going to be good enough for me to hear of an “it” moment but why was it important, how did you get there. Imagine knowing what could create one of those moments for another?

There is no other site I would ask this question on; people would think I was some kind of stalker.

And I didn’t get a TB shot in my shoulder. :P

TPP: but you are, in a very, very mild sort of way. ;)

How can it not be an it when you have that dreadful feeling of your soul getting torn watch your own flesh and blood in that situation.

Not his fault? Then who's fault? Why was he in a situation like that? Always somebody to blame. Now I just blame myself for everything, that's another of my it. So I can remove all resentment and anger as best as I can, it still manages to come out tho..working on that one.

Says who I don't have fun with my kids and praise them and love them to death? Ehem? I had the strictest and most feared dad growing up, he never praised, show physical emotions, and always tried to restrict me from my dreams to keep me with him forever. I learned from mistakes, of course I wouldn't bring mine up that way. But he made sure I studied magazines, newspapers, gave me the best upbringing. He has changed now. When I think about it now, all I can be is overly appreciative of that. Because everything happens for a reason.

I think physically harming a child harms me more then it does them. It doesn't take very long to get to know a child. Just a few hours for me. It's the part about building up a trust and children can always choose the best when it comes to instincts towards strangers.

Sorry I'm driving you nutz, and assume about you. I just like to explain stuff, that's all, coz there is always a reason.

My reason on seeing a psychiatrist, which I chose to, was so I can get a diagnose from a Neurophycologist about my brain. I think I shall top seeing him very soon as just like what has been stated somewhere in this forum, they are only there to make more and more money from us, in this case they're not getting it from me, but the govt :)

Ahhh.. best things in life are free :)

TPP sorry to hear about your son.
Good that he is ok now, I went through that with my brothers son months ago heart breaking at the time, he is on the mend.
Quite full of pride, got a job offer today.
Have to be proud about that,same job different union, said no, pride would not let me work there.
Rather be hungry but will not,bit troubled about the thread.
Its intent is great but some things I just can not say.
Forum rules not cowardice stops me.

Hey Belly, doing what you believe is right can be absolutely painful and costly in different ways.

And thanks, He’s going to go back and see the people at the scene and thank them and he may have become a moment for some, I believe the people in the street saved his life. Some children that saw the accident would need closure so it doesn’t become just a horrible memory.

Why is the thread worrying to you?

Jinny no one was to blame. Nope wasn’t a moment and I might have been in shock anyway so chemicals probably cloud some moments. I don’t have a soul. :P

You can’t “know” a child in a few hours. We can assume they are like most children and a hug will cheer them up etc but with the kids I am familiar with it can make a situation worse. If you hurt a child I am convinced it does actually hurt them more or there would be very little child abuse in the world. Probably less kidnappings if children had well tuned stranger instincts as well.

It isn’t assuming about me that drives me nuts. It is you assume, with limited information, that you have a complete story. I often still do it myself. Being here taught me to read what is said, not finish other peoples stories and look for more information but I still slip up.

Get a life.. i'm not playing this game n more. Have more important things to do and lives to help.

TPP: Assume what you want, interpret how you want. Your life, your choice, your decision. If there is a problem, find a solution, eliminate the problem.

Doesn't matter what others think about you, what matters is what you and believe about yourself. You don't need anyone telling you what or who you are, accept you. Don't get so bothered by all(including me) depressing ones who have nothing better to do then to pick on you.

This is the way it is.

'It' is where you find peace and serenity. The rest... it doesn't really matter.

Jinny who are you are telling to get a life? Settle petal.

"It" might not be where you find peace and serenity and we have already seen people whose moments were exciting or scary, brave, confirming or outright magic.

But you may have found your moment which did bring you peace and serenity, "it" belongs to you and no one can tell you that it is wrong and be right.

TPP: amazing! One of my chinese character of my name is Petal.

No telling u, just don't like to see the abusing. It is not my place to judge you, neither is it anyone. And they don't have any right to make fun of u or put u down. They did not live ur life, and how about them talking about their own wrong for once in their lives.

NO RESPECT for anything, not even an object.

Take control Jinny, of your thoughts and just what you post here.
For no other reason than your wellbeing please consider that.
You Need to take a breath ,consider others too, we all at times hurt.
But while some lash out at others,we do at times, the first step in healing is taking on board our own part in the problems.
I am not needling you,you do that to yourself.

Thanks for your concerns... Not!

Unfortunately for me, my brain processes things a lot more then others. So I super sensitive. I should've already known. Poison keyboard strokes. When they cannot win, they cheat. You think this is pain.. If only u knew...

I realize, sense, and am aware and more conscious of what is happening. I hope it brings some joy to others.. I will just continue to read and learn...

Besides, my brain has been brain-washed completely inside out, I don't think there's any spot left to clean anymore ;p

It interests me the virtual interactions that goes on here. Only makes me understand more of human behavior. Enjoy ur weekend! :)

TTP: FYI, in don't work so much with younger children but with youth and adults at the moment. Just in this month by spending some just a few hours, some a day of 2 some longer. Here are the issues they have

-health problems(mental & physical)
-sex addicts(apparently they're very quiet in class), parents have no idea at all
-tormented about parents/grandparents separation.
-dealing with life lost and having to put up with blame by others and not daring to get help with it.
-abusing substances behind parents back after mixing with the wrong crowd.
-getting abused because a parent decides to choose to be with other partners who make the parent believe that their own child is 'evil', thus at 14-16, having to move out and start fending for themselves.

not that hard for me to find out what is wrong with these few and try to help if they allow.

Anti brought up a good point which I have seen some mother's here doing. That is bad.

it: goinna pop back into my little bottle and play in my little house with my little superheroes.

and it's jinny, no capital, thanks.or does it appear wt Capital to u? DOH?(like how Homer does it)

I too believe most children between 14 and 16 are evil sex addicts. :P Abusing substances and hanging with the wrong crowd, really sounds like you are hanging with perfectly normal youth going through a typical phase in their young lives.

I’d give the parents more credit though.

I didn’t know you preferred lower case J, my name and both my children’s names begin with a J and it is habit for me use a capital in the correct way with a proper noun.

Yes “doh” indeed.

Now I will go look for this good point Anti made because to actually find one would probably become an “it” moment for me.

TPP: I don't hang around with any of them. They find my virtually mostly and tell me their problems, I listen, and explain so the understand and try to feel better and to change. Stop assuming everything.. jez.

And if you were referring to me by the age thing. there u go again..

Anti doesn't know you, leave it be.

It has been a good thread TPP I leave it now as a refugee, from unfortunately you jenny.
I never in my life want to intimidate any one, a woman for sure.
I even tried to get you to self protect in your posts.
Earlier TPP noted DOCs can see you here, may, in some cases probably do, monitor some of us.
You have put a great deal about your self here, other information came from other sources.
I hope you get swept nearer to reality in your flood of words and may reach out and find a hand hold threads not getting a start GY seems very busy see you in another thread TPP.

don't worry bout me i'm fine. I know what i'm doing and my case with the gov is all good. They are actually helping me now :)

only not happy dey dun wanna gimme my old phone bk! there are a few old ppl there i can't get in touch wt to tell dem i'm ok. So not happy bout dat.

Thanks for all da advice, know you were trying to toughen me up and u have. Appreciated.

It: they are just words on a computer screen, do not let them hurt you too much :P

Im behaving ok... im a good little jinny. No need capital coz it takes more effort when you are using a phone to type capital letters.. same on computer. plus why capitals for names in the first place? are we not all equal beings? does it need to stand out? i like lower letters coz it save a bit of time with electronical devices.

weekend.. dun argue here, go enjoy nature and it's beauty. :)

I didn't refer to you about age, I was talking about the 14 - 16 year olds.

You've stated your age online which is in the same generation as me. At your age my own children were around 5 & 6 years old and I had been a solo parent for about 4 years.

Hanging out in person or online is still I suspect "hanging out".

Belly is handing out some good advice by the way.

And another thread crashes and burns.

LOL! It was pretty fun u must admit.. Free entertainment I would classify 'it' as.

TTP: I respect Belly, hv I said otherwise? U don't know me. What did you state before about who I hang out with? How many times do I hv to prove u wrong? Assumptions... Which u still are. Look at how someone got brought down doing dat. I don't hv to disclose to anyone here what I do. How about trying to work wt DOCS instead of fighting them?

It is so easy to form judgments about the things you don't know.

Fact is, knowledge is key. Acceptance, understanding, forgiveness, respect, are the others.

Cheers and enjoy the rest of the weekend.

Oki doki then... jinny I stated that I thought whether hanging out online or in person it is still considered “hanging out”. I have no opinion about you hanging out with young teens online.

So far you have not proven me wrong about anything.

No one said you did not respect Belly.

No I do not know you…to attempt it, I imagine, is exhausting.

Yes it is easy to form judgments but hard to find proof that anyone has done so.

Knowledge is key to what?

Acceptance, understand, forgiveness, respect are other "whats"?

“It” is not entertainment for fun. I was interested and wanted to hear about them.

Work with DoCS? You assume I haven’t? I am not fighting DoCS I am fighting NGO’s.

TTP: Lol.. you're funny.. so curious...

If i answer everything here.. how am i going to promote my books in the future.. beside.. it very complicated..

oooh, and of course.. you are a great fisherwoman.. :)

i sometimes forget i am posting to 'normal' beings.. maybe when you want to judge and assume a word, u should first read up everything about what the word means.

TPP: i'm still curious who lost their job using google? that will be a laugh for sure.

What was it?: Knowing that I never sink to the level as some do. Knowing that I have better knowledge, knowing that in my short time here which has been painful, it has thought me so so much.

It, this, is a war field.

It: knowing how some of the posters have spend have the decade trying to change.. but it hasn't.. not from a forum. I've found a better action group anywayz, that actually makes a difference.

There is a link called Justf*&^inggoogle it. If someone asks you a question you send the link to them, it’s a joke people play on each other.

The other day I was told that someone sent it to a customer and got fired for doing so.

“It: knowing how some of the posters have spend have the decade trying to change.. but it hasn't.. not from a forum. I've found a better action group anywayz, that actually makes a difference.”

Good, seeya.