Foxy and I fought what we thought was a defensive war here with a poster we believed had too much freedom, one I find it impossible to respect
We fought a battle we should have ignored, I was wrong.
Ignoring the bloke is much better.
I am a warrior if I thought for one minute I needed to be counted I would not retreat.
Those who have gone mostly could come back , mostly have clashed with most of us.
Do we want total freedom in another's private property?
Are we able to say things that may get the forum sued?
Again if I must I will say it get evidence before making claims of bias in deletions,you will not find any.
Do not built a mountain out of the 3 deletions named here , or shadows you only glimpsed.
TPP IF you knew the story ,one that forum rules and simple honor do not let me tell, you would be very pleased Graham acted.
In relation to one poster I think GY is being kind in not acting, but also keeping within the rules nothing said yet is enough to ban any one yet.

piper/quote..<<We're..going to become..a bunch of people
who are of one opinion..>....i agree

<<or..are too polite*..to debate with any passion.>.
yes i agree

<<..I can't even think of something..*disagreeable to say back to you..and am totally disspointed in myself.>>.

i con-curr
i mean...[i agree]

<<Err.. pooh pooh head.>>
oh shoot...me too

sorry i dont have additional adult content
to con*tribute...i feel drained...fast moving into the so*what mode

its allmost like im getting*..satifaction..
from not giving anyone*.. anything..to think..or mostly
to com-plain..about...even spell checking..to see im not using todays talking point...or seem to be taking sides..

i might begin using capitals soon...[naw too hard]..cant think..*and capitalise...at the same time..[im not going to be multit-asking]

im a male we dont capitalise..unless*..defending a weak point..and need to yell[or complain*].to initimidate...our way to being rite..

[even if/when..we wrote wrong]...[or deem others to have write..written/rote..
that..of which the complaining whiners..feel the need..to take note.

it somehow seems..un-austr-alian...to complain
if the point cant be made..in words...at the topic...
then why bother even reading it,..if complaint about..how/who wrote..

is your only reply

anyhow nothing else is worthy of even reading
[im practicing..expanding..on the scroll..revealation...theme

by not even clicking on some topics
simply by who wrote them

[yeah i know its pathetic..but is saving heaps of time]
and i now..got more time to be bored..[not drilled..]reamed..or..

oh heck whats the use

im shutting down my thinking
giving my typing finger a rest
let the foxes run their hen-house

oh my lord
im turing into a meta-phore hoar
well on my way to becomming a thought-less..bbbb-hore

no more

So what appears to be implied by a number of posters is that views are all uniform and there is little opportunity to debate without flaming and focussing on personal attacks.

We still seem to have people of differing views on site, what has changed is the tollerance for abuse of authors, other posters and possibly the site moderator.

I made my point earlier about the tone of comments aimed at Foxy in Cyberia earlier and the rest will depend very much on individual opinions. I'd greatly reduced my posting here for quite a while because of that style of posting.

I saw three of the posts which I think Belly refers to (not the blue one) and hit the button as well. I'd kind of like them to be around for the history aspect but for other reasons I think that they are better off gone.

R0bert

The Blue post was glaringly defamatory - there's no was way that it could have stayed up...that's why it was reported by four people, and would have been reported by more if they had seen it. Although, this one was so obviously reportable - most are not so clear cut.

I managed in the end to have a peek at Cyberia - and noted the stoush between Ginx and the reluctant Foxy. Quite frankly it seemed akin to a schoolyard brawl where the rest of them stood around and ogled and cheered while these two slugged it out. It was a spectacle indeed, but not the sort of thing that is going to furnish us with good articles on this site.

So the best poison to use against one's forum adversaries is a bit of creative wordsmithing - some people are ignorant dolts, some comments are idiotic - but a little sardonic wit, delectable irony or scintillating satire can be terminal when used in response.

I don’t get the Foxy thing Belly, there are vague hints that at some point some posts turned up that should be deleted and then they were, doesn’t sound too stirry. At which point did Foxy get in a big enough huff to leave? On Cyberia it mentioned one comment she wrote, which actually did seem to be bloody funny. You defended her and it all went to pot is about all I am understanding.

Other sites will go as far to wipe a message that has a real name in it. Slip ups occur. Blue I was thinking had used a name which I didn’t take much notice of… was his post deleted because of that or because he was cheeky to me? And honest he was trying to be funny and I kinda did go “Haha” when I read it.

I wouldn’t want OLO to turn into one like Altnews where a flare up happens that is outright abusive and chocka with real names. Read another thread last night where Qanda (have to check that) said goodbye, moderation seemed at the root of it.

Belly:”TPP IF you knew the story, one that forum rules and simple honor do not let me tell, you would be very pleased Graham acted.”

Maybe, I dunno. R0bert agrees, I still dunno.

OMG UOG that is what I've been saying for ages, mostly to myself because I am trying to be one, it seems un-Australian to complain.

And I don’t get the ones that are complaining at Cyberia. But it started cause of whatever has built up here and lately reached some sort of peak. Why they are so spewy rather than how it is projected is what starting bugging me.

Poroit:”So the best poison to use against one's forum adversaries is a bit of creative wordsmithing - some people are ignorant dolts, some comments are idiotic - but a little sardonic wit, delectable irony or scintillating satire can be terminal when used in response.”

Yeah, some of us muppets need training up a bit.

Question; Mostly it is females who have gone?

Piorot "but a little sardonic wit, delectable irony or scintillating satire can be terminal when used in response."

That can cut both way's. Those same tools can be brutal at undermining an opponent who may be making good points but who does not do as well with those skills. They can be terminal when used in attack as well as response.

I've occasionally excelled myself with short pieces of satire but generally I struggle to use those tools with any real flair and on most topics I'll be outclassed by some of those I disagree with. I know that there are others in the same boat.

The forum should be a place where idea's can be discussed without it being a battle of who has the thickest skin, the best skill with manipulating words, the greatest willingness to bludgeon an opponent or divert attention from what they are actually saying.

I've not spent any significant time on other general discussion sites, the brief visit's I've had really left me with the opinion that learning and discussion of idea's were not generally valued commodities. OLO stands out because there is space for opposing idea's and sometimes considerable respect between people from different sides of arguments.

R0bert