The problem is, that no matter how clear the rules might appear to be, they don’t necessarily apply at face value. This happens all over the place in our society. I’ve made numerous comments on this forum about it particularly regarding road safety and workplace codes of conduct. Unfortunately, the rule of law as written and as practiced is often significantly different. This appears to be case most obviously on OLO with the off-topic rule.

I think that Graham is doing a great job as the moderator and is certainly trying to find the right balance, and that we posters and readers are not pulling our weight often enough by being reluctant to hit the red cross when we encounter dodgy posts.

But having been suspended once, without a prior warning, after more than four years with no problems, over something which I could never have imagined copping a suspension for, having been very careful in striving to understand the rules and the OLO culture, and feeling deeply offended as a result, I think that a gentle hand for first-time offenders would definitely be a good thing.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and it may be necessary from time to time to give a stupid or misinformed beholder a black eye.
(Miss Piggy).

Lady Nancy Astor: " Winston, if you were my husband, I'd poison your tea."

Churchill: "Nancy, if I were your husband, I'd drink it.”

What a shame we have no "Churchills" here.

What a colourful thread. Entertaining as it is, it do think of GY. Poor fella, he must read this thinking:"wat are these bunch of children doing?", and he has to put up with all our nonsense. hahahaha...

Irritating as I am(brought up that way, my dad and me take much pride in this, and if I didn't live up to it, i'd soooo be letting him down.), I would like to apologize, once again, to all those here I have managed getting on your nerves. Whether or not you believe me, is up to you, but sincerely, i do.. I feel like I've sorta tormented some of you mentally.

If you think you're stubborn.. all i need to do in close my eyes, cross my arms, tell myself I am more stubborn then you and blink! Ta-da! :p

Maybe it's better for me not to post because I really don't wanna upset anyone. I do stand up for what I believe in. Besides, what kind of a mother would I be if I didn't. If my kids found out about this when they grow older and that their mom just sat and did nothing about this, nahhh, so not me.

watch these for 5 minutes from the time I've put down, it's better coming from experts then me since i'm a con-feman.

1:49:00 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jc-55p1Al9k&feature=share (7mins roughly)

40:00 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4491999408234054262# (5mins should be enough)

it explains our behaviour pretty much i reckon. Not saying I am right with mine here. But I don't hold a grudge. Spur of the moment I might say something hurtful, which is wrong, but I did and I can't take it back now.

this is where we can express our opinions, and opinions it is. I suppose for the newer members here it will be a lot harder to be accepted. I miss that colour. Hope he comes back soon. He was quite entertaining in his own way.

Each an every post should be respected, because it comes from a being. whether or not you agree with the words, you should still respect it because it is someone else's view point on life. everyone is different, it is what makes us who we are today.

am sorry to have upset all of you i have angered or caused harm, i am just a human, incapable of being perfect. thanks for the opportunity here and the lessons. it has been great.

"today well lived, makes every yesterday a joy to remember, and every tomorrow a vision of hope"

count your blessings. we are lucky not to be the ones in that mine, our daughter was not that 12 yr old girl, we hv it good.. keep the positive vibes...

peace out n enjoy ur week!!

Think with me here please TPP and others.
I was at the heart of the foxy thing.
unhappy with a post from GY.
We got upset, right about then a person who had been posting and niggling SM turned out to be a sock puppet, had it appears three different tags.
Posts got deleted and in time each of the three sock puppets suspended.
Note please FOXY did no know, in my view, that a SP was at work, her Innocent enough post was deleted.
mine too because they referred to a deleated post,I may get and will except a suspension for this explanation.
She left, see her post history.
UNDERSTAND please not knowing why a post was deleted poster suspended can lead to people thinking it was wrong, it shows here in this thread.
Posts that named real names, people and right or wrong defamed them,bought this forum near to being sued have been deleted.
2 I will talk no more about, I notified them, YOU WOULD HAVE TOO.
Deep Blue got a week, he/she will be back , those who saw the post know it defamed and may have bought legal action against this site.
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