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Australian Education Review Examination

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Weighing the future in comparison with our past, the implementation of new education infrastructures and programs for the public sector are not giving the returns expected for funding.

Reports show that from 1990 – current government funding for general costs and programs within government schools to be less than non-government schools almost 30-100% for programs and up to 200% more for general costs given.

For example from a past report; non-government schools received $4484 million for general costs and $2619.7 million for programs, in comparison to government schools receiving $2344 million for general costs and $1603.3 million for programs.

Non-government schools, as we all know charge families term fees of anywhere up to 3-4Gs per student, giving question to why a non-government school is entitled to more than a public state school and is this rather for preference to selection of curriculum or enrolment numbers?.

The Government is ever increasing distribution of public funds for various programs, in an aim to improve our schooling for better national results that show very little improvement since 1982 for our money.

Maybe they need to look more at homework periods being 1-2 hours per night for public schools and 2-3 for private schools, not to mention curriculum periods being one hour rather than half an hour, with the rotation of main subjects more statically proven to achieve higher academic outcome.

Our teacher to student ratio national average has also shown little improvement for this period of time, with only minor adjustment fluctuations averaging 2-4 to 1 in primary and reasonable static ratio for secondary, both increasing over more recent years.

Example: 1982 primary 20.8 to 1, secondary 13.1 to 1, 1989 primary 18.2 to 1, secondary 12.2 to 1, 1999 primary 17.0 to 1, secondary 12.5 to 1, 2009 primary 24 to 1, secondary 18 to 1. Note however that in 2002 there was a statistic error between our two main sources: primary 16.9 to 1, secondary 12.4 to 1 sourced from Australian Bureau of Statistics and primary 16.7 to 1, secondary 12.6 to 1 sourced from ABS.
Posted by BrettH, Thursday, 4 November 2010 2:27:09 PM
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Government funds invested into outsource companies’ costs 10s to 100s of millions annually, through programs to advertising and not to mention infrastructure design.

Through research I found some examples of programs and statistics of results that maybe of some interest of how well our increased financial effort has been within the education sector.

To start with companies attached to the government outsourcing data and resources are not updating very regularly with more the 90% only supply data dated as late as 2002 increasing research time by hours, to located more up to date and in-depth information. This also meant sourcing internationally for local statistics and data.

Government invested $2.5 billion plus through the Smarter Schools National Partnerships program, a component of NEA designed to strengthen do what has already been implemented and active via the education system for years.

$18 billion through NEA; primary objective is that ‘All Australian school students acquire the knowledge and skills to participate effectively in society and employment in a globalised economy’, enthusing schools cannot mould alone.

8th grade male mathematic achievements international comparison hitting the basement floor gender gaps lowest in world, 4th grade bottom equal to 2 other nations. 0.65est of 1% education growth annually over 15 year timeline and an important fact, student families 52 to 56% of nation below the low income line in poverty over last 10 year span. Congratulations Korea for maintaining highest standards on the majority of main subjects over the years out of all nations.

The government funds up to $70million annually for training programs outsourced to Australian National Training Authority that designed VET.

Vocational Education Training 82 percent plus funded by the government, indicating results to say the least to be an expense we could do without.

The national results for 2009 for VET students was Cert I-58, Cert II-58 and Cert III-10 show this to be a non-viable program due to numbers. 2009 OP1 to 25: 1-5-25, 6-10-40, 11-15-39, 16-20-32, 21-25-19 out of how many?
Posted by BrettH, Thursday, 4 November 2010 3:15:12 PM
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What does this tell us beside great figures in outlining the obvious!, It tells us that we waste funds on programs; we waste funding on outsourcing, materials, committees and infrastructures that are not achieving academic desired results, let alone the required moulding for young adults to build a strong economic future.

We rely on the education system and pressuring teachings to be more than they can be. Teachers teach not groom for leadership.

This is outlining the need for the government not to put more and more funds into the education system not producing results, but to invest in adult independence of equal worth for the entire nation such as the concept of a national public service bill.
Posted by BrettH, Thursday, 4 November 2010 3:15:53 PM
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yeah...maybe it is homeworks hours
maybe..its the study period lengths

but i..stick with teachher/student ratio
or better-teachers..wanting to teach the better few*

of a better class..*for the better conditions...more pay..
and the fewer parents..at parent/teacher night

and better quality excursions

i still cant 'get'..why the public system
..pays anything to private...system

its just they know better..how to get at..public cash
Posted by one under god, Thursday, 4 November 2010 4:08:31 PM
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I agree excursions are an important part of learning and schools need to be assisted not only with personal funding via selling chocolates.

I was a cub and kea leader years back the youngest as my father was the boss and we made sure excursions where at least twice a year and as good as a holiday.

No other association near us could compete because business knowledge plays an important part not just parents.

It is important that parents connect with teachers; this is also an assessment update for both sides in the interest of the child.

As we are at the end of the day part of the British Empire aka a commonwealth religion is interlaced into our constitution.

But at the same time these schools are the professional top end and should be able to support themselves.
Posted by BrettH, Thursday, 4 November 2010 4:23:42 PM
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probably a far better review would be to look at the facts that are causing numerous parents with all sorts of beliefs to desert the state system. Blaming the lack of funding is the same as blaming the lack of funding for aboriginal affairs on the plight of our first people. Billions have been spent with little to show. Fix the system instead of being envious of one that is far from perfect but works much better.
Posted by runner, Thursday, 4 November 2010 5:46:45 PM
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